{"id":1748,"date":"2012-04-13T14:03:37","date_gmt":"2012-04-13T18:03:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/?p=1748"},"modified":"2014-01-28T16:01:26","modified_gmt":"2014-01-28T20:01:26","slug":"hall-to-mcnair-october-17-1980-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/hall-to-mcnair-october-17-1980-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Hall to McNair: October 17, 1980"},"content":{"rendered":"<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"vertical-align: top; background: white; float: left;\"><a class=\"shutterset\" title=\"Letter from Hall to McNair, October 17, 1980, Page 1.  Colby College Special Collections.\" href=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/04\/Hall-McNair-19801017-001-colby.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-2078 alignleft\" style=\"border: 1px solid gray; background: white;\" alt=\"Hall-to-McNair-10-17-1980\" src=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/04\/Hall-McNair-19801017-001-colby.jpg\" width=\"250\" height=\"250\" \/><\/a><a class=\"shutterset\" title=\"Letter from Hall to McNair, October 17, 1980, Page 2.  Colby College Special Collections.\" href=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2014\/01\/Hall-McNair-19801017-002-colby-1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-2078 alignleft\" style=\"border: 0px none; background: white; display: none;\" alt=\"Hall-to-McNair-10-17-1980\" src=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2014\/01\/Hall-McNair-19801017-002-colby-1.jpg\" \/><\/a><a class=\"shutterset\" title=\"Letter from Hall to McNair, October 17, 1980, Page 1.  Colby College Special Collections.\" href=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/04\/Hall-McNair-19801017-001a-colby.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-2078 alignleft\" style=\"border: 0px none; background: white; display: none;\" alt=\"Hall-to-McNair-10-17-1980\" src=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/04\/Hall-McNair-19801017-001a-colby.jpg\" \/><\/a><a class=\"shutterset\" title=\"Letter from Hall to McNair, October 17, 1980, Page 2.  Colby College Special Collections.\" href=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/04\/Hall-McNair-19801017-002a-colby.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-2078 alignleft\" style=\"border: 0px none; background: white; display: none;\" alt=\"Hall-to-McNair-10-17-1980\" src=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/04\/Hall-McNair-19801017-002a-colby.jpg\" \/><\/a><a class=\"shutterset\" title=\"Letter from Hall to McNair, October 17, 1980, Page 3.  Colby College Special Collections.\" href=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/04\/Hall-McNair-19801017-003a-colby.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-2078 alignleft\" style=\"border: 0px none; background: white; display: none;\" alt=\"Hall-to-McNair-10-17-1980\" src=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/04\/Hall-McNair-19801017-003a-colby.jpg\" \/><\/a><a class=\"shutterset\" title=\"Letter from Hall to McNair, October 17, 1980, Page 4.  Colby College Special Collections.\" href=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/04\/Hall-McNair-19801017-004a-colby.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-2078 alignleft\" style=\"border: 0px none; background: white; display: none;\" alt=\"Hall-to-McNair-10-17-1980\" src=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/04\/Hall-McNair-19801017-004a-colby.jpg\" \/><\/a><a class=\"shutterset\" title=\"Letter from Hall to McNair, October 17, 1980, Page 5.  Colby College Special Collections.\" href=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/04\/Hall-McNair-19801017-005a-colby.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-2078 alignleft\" style=\"border: 0px none; background: white; display: none;\" alt=\"Hall-to-McNair-10-17-1980\" src=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/04\/Hall-McNair-19801017-005a-colby.jpg\" \/><\/a><a class=\"shutterset\" title=\"Letter from Hall to McNair, October 17, 1980, Page 6.  Colby College Special Collections.\" href=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/04\/Hall-McNair-19801017-006a-colby.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-2078 alignleft\" style=\"border: 0px none; background: white; display: none;\" alt=\"Hall-to-McNair-10-17-1980\" src=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/04\/Hall-McNair-19801017-006a-colby.jpg\" \/><\/a><a class=\"shutterset\" title=\"Letter from Hall to McNair, October 17, 1980, Page 7.  Colby College Special Collections.\" href=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/04\/Hall-McNair-19801017-007a-colby.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-2078 alignleft\" style=\"border: 0px none; background: white; display: none;\" alt=\"Hall-to-McNair-10-17-1980\" src=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/04\/Hall-McNair-19801017-007a-colby.jpg\" \/><\/a><a class=\"shutterset\" title=\"Letter from Hall to McNair, October 17, 1980, Page 8.  Colby College Special Collections.\" href=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/04\/Hall-McNair-19801017-008a-colby.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-2078 alignleft\" style=\"border: 0px none; background: white; display: none;\" alt=\"Hall-to-McNair-10-17-1980\" src=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/04\/Hall-McNair-19801017-008a-colby.jpg\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #808080;\">[Click image to view]<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<td style=\"background: white; padding-left: 30px;\">17 October 1980<\/p>\n<p>Wesley McNair<br \/>\nBox 43<br \/>\nNorth Sutton, NH 03260<\/p>\n<p>Dear Wes,<\/p>\n<p>Good to hear from you. I fully understand your wish<br \/>\nto leave Colby-Sawyer. I think you may have picked a very<br \/>\ndifficult time to move. Do not burn any bridges! \u2026I do<br \/>\nnot mean that you should not be looking, and my recommendation<br \/>\nwill go out today.<\/p>\n<p>Still, I have a number of observations. I suspect that<br \/>\nmost other places would be no more stimulating then Colby-Sawyer.<br \/>\nColby-Sawyer has a pleasing sort of faculty. You would have<br \/>\nbetter students at many other places \u2013 but of course you would<br \/>\nvirtually never, in twenty years of teaching, have what we<br \/>\nmight reasonably call a \u201cgood poet.\u201d And you would surround<br \/>\nyourself with a whole lot of bogus professionalism, the wretched<br \/>\nhustlers of the academy \u2013 who prevail at Dartmouth, Michigan,<br \/>\nArizona State, etc.\u2026 But not nearly so much at Colby-Sawyer.<\/p>\n<p>Second, it is well known that it is virtually impossible<br \/>\nto get a job in writing right now, unless you have three or<br \/>\nfour books, and preferably a Pulitzer Prize. I am almost<br \/>\nserious. Everybody looking for work now has an M.F.A. I<br \/>\ndon\u2019t think you need an M.F.A.! I don\u2019t think an M.F.A. means<br \/>\nanything. But probably it means something to Deans.<\/p>\n<p>And then, because there are so many small presses and<br \/>\nsmall publishers, lots of people apply for jobs saying that<br \/>\nthey have published nine books, seven, thirteen\u2026 And in a<br \/>\nsense they have.<\/p>\n<p>There are also good people, with books, with M.F.A.\u2019s,<br \/>\nlooking for work. It is really a terrible time. It is also<br \/>\na terrible time in mathematics, physics, etc. But creative<br \/>\nwriting is one of the worst areas right now, because of the<br \/>\nfrantic overproduction of M.F.A.\u2019s in the last fifteen years.<\/p>\n<p>Third, or fourth or whatever it is\u2026do try, if you are<br \/>\nlooking for a new job, to get something that includes the<br \/>\nteaching of literature. The <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">swamp<\/span> of the creative writing<br \/>\nindustry, in this country, consists mainly of illiterate<br \/>\nlizards who cannot teach literature at all because they<br \/>\nhaven\u2019t read anything. To be isolated with them in a \u201ccreative<br \/>\nwriting department\u201d is a fate worse than teaching in a room full<br \/>\nof sub-literate young ladies, which is what you are used to.<\/p>\n<p>2\/<\/p>\n<p>[X] I was at Arizona State last autumn and I think it is<br \/>\nin the swamp all right. Still, anything might be welcome<br \/>\nrelief, and a good change, so I would not try to argue with<br \/>\nyou about taking the job if you\u2019ve got it. But I suspect<br \/>\nthat there will be two or three hundred applications for it,<br \/>\nand that most of them will list books, and that some of them<br \/>\nwill <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">really<\/span> have published two, three, or four books.<\/p>\n<p>I am being discouraging! I don\u2019t want you to expect<br \/>\ntoo much\u2026 But I am not trying to get you not to try \u2013<br \/>\nmuch as I would prefer it if you stayed in North Sutton!<\/p>\n<p>That is nice news about the Magazine Verse book. Jane<br \/>\nhad a letter from them too. In the letter to her, the man<br \/>\noffered no money at all. Did he offer any to you? She is<br \/>\ngoing to ask him for some. And then if he won\u2019t give her<br \/>\nany, she will probably let him have it for free.<\/p>\n<p>I have learned to ask: does the ink-manufacturer donate<br \/>\nthe ink? Does the paper-manufacturer donate the paper? Is<br \/>\nthere absolutely no sum whatsoever to the secretaries typing<br \/>\nthese letters? To the editor himself?<\/p>\n<p>There will be more poems in more places before very<br \/>\nlong, I do believe. Peter Davison wrote a very sweet letter<br \/>\nof rejection \u2013 and I would predict that he would take something<br \/>\nwithin a year. I don\u2019t suppose I should make such predictions!<br \/>\nBut I wouldn\u2019t be surprised\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Oh my goodness, the foliage is fantastic.<\/p>\n<p>Love as ever,<\/p>\n<p>Don<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\"><strong><em>Editorial note about this letter:<\/em><\/strong><\/span> Included with this letter is Hall&#8217;s letter of recommendation for McNair&#8217;s job search, accompanied by other letters written by professors from Bread Loaf, and from Dartmouth College, where McNair took courses in American literature, history and art during 1971-72, sponsored by a fellowship from the National Endowment for the Humanities.<\/p>\n<p>See the letter of recommendation Hall wrote for McNair <span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/letter-of-recommendation-october-17-1980\/\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\">here<\/span><\/a><\/strong><\/span>.<\/p>\n<!--themify_builder_content-->\n<div id=\"themify_builder_content-1748\" data-postid=\"1748\" class=\"themify_builder_content themify_builder_content-1748 themify_builder tf_clear\">\n    <\/div>\n<!--\/themify_builder_content-->\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[Click image to view] 17 October 1980 Wesley McNair Box 43 North Sutton, NH 03260 Dear Wes, Good to hear from you. I fully understand your wish to leave Colby-Sawyer. I think you may have picked a very difficult time to move. Do not burn any bridges! \u2026I do not mean that you should not [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2206,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[35324,596,42965,35504,42976],"tags":[],"builder_content":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1748"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2206"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1748"}],"version-history":[{"count":31,"href":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1748\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":11650,"href":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1748\/revisions\/11650"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1748"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1748"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1748"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}