{"id":1651,"date":"2012-03-09T15:28:56","date_gmt":"2012-03-09T19:28:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/?p=1651"},"modified":"2013-12-18T20:45:41","modified_gmt":"2013-12-19T00:45:41","slug":"hall-to-mcnair-july-28-1980","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/hall-to-mcnair-july-28-1980\/","title":{"rendered":"Hall to McNair: July 28, 1980"},"content":{"rendered":"<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"vertical-align: top; background: white; float: left;\"><a class=\"shutterset\" title=\"Letter from Hall to McNair, July 28, 1980, Page 1.  Colby College Special Collections.\" href=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/01\/Hall-McNair-19800728-001-colby.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-2078 alignleft\" style=\"border: 1px solid gray; background: white;\" alt=\"Hall-to-McNair-07-28-1980\" src=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/01\/Hall-McNair-19800728-001-colby.jpg\" width=\"250\" height=\"250\" \/><\/a><a class=\"shutterset\" title=\"Letter from Hall to McNair, July 28, 1980, Page 2.  Colby College Special Collections.\" href=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/01\/Hall-McNair-19800728-002-colby.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-2078 alignleft\" style=\"border: 0px none; background: white; display: none;\" alt=\"Hall-to-McNair-07-28-1980\" src=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/files\/2012\/01\/Hall-McNair-19800728-002-colby.jpg\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #808080;\">[Click image to view]<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<td style=\"background: white; padding-left: 30px;\">28 July 1980<\/p>\n<p>Wes McNair<br \/>\nBox 43<br \/>\nNorth Sutton, NH 03260<\/p>\n<p>Dear Wes,<\/p>\n<p>It is when Superman Died that I need. Thank you and<br \/>\nsorry.<\/p>\n<p>Davison saw quite a few poems that Joey sent him,<br \/>\nand he rejected them. As it happens, he did not see the<br \/>\nthree that you mentioned: Old Trees, The Fat Enter Heaven,<br \/>\nand Here on Television [sic]. (He would not like the last. But<br \/>\nhe might like the first two.)<\/p>\n<p>But they are at the moment out at another magazine.<\/p>\n<p>I will send them to him when they come back, if they<br \/>\ncome back. Earlier, although they were addressed to him \u2013<br \/>\nand although Davison has bought poems by other of Joey\u2019s<br \/>\nclients \u2013 the poems were rejected by Mary Jo Salter, who<br \/>\nreads for him, and therefore I am not even certain that he<br \/>\nreads them. But he may have done.<br \/>\n[<em>Written in margin<\/em>: Almost <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">certain<\/span> \u2013 or they would have had slips.]<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, I will send those to him when they come back \u2013<br \/>\nbut I think it ought to be Joey who does the sending. I think<br \/>\nyou ought to be consistent, or we ought to be \u2013 I don\u2019t think<br \/>\nthat some poems should come directly from you and others from<br \/>\nJoey Amaryllis.<\/p>\n<p>I think that Calling Harold is finished, perfect, and<br \/>\nwonderful!<\/p>\n<p>I think that The Fat People of the Old Days is a wonderful<br \/>\nidea, and ought to be terrific \u2013 but I think that it is<br \/>\nawkward and unfinished, and I think it would be a real mistake<br \/>\nto send it out now. That is, I think it will be better a<br \/>\nfew months from now.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t really believe in epigraphs very much. This<br \/>\nis a funny saying, but then it appears to be the saying of<br \/>\nthe author\u2019s child, and therefore he is saying \u201cLook at what<br \/>\na cute child I\u2019ve got!\u201d Often they are appeals to authority.<br \/>\nSometimes they give off an appearance of diffidence. I really<br \/>\ndon\u2019t like this one, even though I like the line itself of<br \/>\ncourse. I don\u2019t think it has much to do with the poem.<\/p>\n<p>Then I think that the language of the poem is slack<br \/>\nhere and there, but that the center of it is just pure gold.<br \/>\nI think that \u201cdriving some mad.\u201d can be better, because<br \/>\nafter all this is a cliche, to be driven mad, and nothing<br \/>\nimaginative about it. I love the notion of knuckles and<br \/>\nelbows sinking into dimples, but then I\u2019m bewildered by the<br \/>\nprepositional clause that follows. It is obvious that it is<\/p>\n<p>2\/<\/p>\n<p>dimples of fat. But then you say \u201cof the fat.\u201d And I am<br \/>\nlost. In fact, that generic \u201c<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">the<\/span> fat,\u201d detaching the phenomenon<br \/>\nfrom people, seems to me probably a mistake. I like the man.<br \/>\nI like the responsibility. I like the fathers folding it<br \/>\nin their pants \u2013 but I don\u2019t like \u201cthrough the cold which\/<br \/>\nalways was.\u201d The expressions seems to me kind of glib there<br \/>\nand I realize it is a reference to the epigraph. But I don\u2019t<br \/>\nneed either. <del datetime=\"2012-03-09T19:48:03+00:00\">But <\/del>There is nothing wrong with mentioning the<br \/>\ncold: I just think that this way of mentioning it seems<br \/>\nas if it intended to be clever.<\/p>\n<p>I love the wide doors and the passing the potatoes!<br \/>\nBut I don\u2019t\u2019 like the \u201clong\/vowels of wind\u2026\u201d because there<br \/>\nare no calories in vowels at all \u2013 unless you put them there.<br \/>\nI mean, if it were the \u201cbuttery\/vowels\u2026\u201d\u2026or something.<br \/>\nBut \u201cthe long\/ vowels of wind\u201d just sounds poetical, kind<br \/>\nof a puff of poetical smoke. Then I don\u2019t think it really<br \/>\nends as well as it might. Partly I think this is the syntax.<br \/>\nThe poem ends with two simple declarative sentences, short<br \/>\nlines, brief sentences\u2026 It seems kind of staccato or tight-<br \/>\nlipped, here at the end. I think it ought to get better!<\/p>\n<p>And I do, indeed, think it is yet one more marvelous<br \/>\npoem \u2013 almost.<\/p>\n<p>Love as ever,<\/p>\n<p>Don<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><em>McNair&#8217;s note about this letter:<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0<span><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;\">The early version my poem \u201cThe Fat People of the Old Days,\u201d <\/span><\/span><span><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;\">whose initial draft has been lost,<\/span><\/span><span><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;\"> had an epigraph linking the title to my daughter\u2019s question as a young child: \u201cWere there fat people in the old days?\u201d &#8212; the epigraph Hall refers to in his discussion here. <\/span><\/span><span><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;\">I continued to come back to the poem during the spring and fall of the ensuing year, sending Don another draft, not quite complete, on <span style=\"color: #800000;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/mcnair-to-hall-october-8-1981\/\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\">October 8, 1981<\/span><\/a><\/span>.Yet <\/span><\/span><span><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;\">the poem\u2019s published version, which appears in the footnote of the next letter, shows that I eventually retained the parts he liked and replaced those he questioned, including the epigraph, despite my initial reluctance.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<!--themify_builder_content-->\n<div id=\"themify_builder_content-1651\" data-postid=\"1651\" class=\"themify_builder_content themify_builder_content-1651 themify_builder tf_clear\">\n    <\/div>\n<!--\/themify_builder_content-->\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[Click image to view] 28 July 1980 Wes McNair Box 43 North Sutton, NH 03260 Dear Wes, It is when Superman Died that I need. Thank you and sorry. Davison saw quite a few poems that Joey sent him, and he rejected them. As it happens, he did not see the three that you mentioned: [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2206,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[35324,596,42965,35504,42973],"tags":[],"builder_content":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1651"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2206"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1651"}],"version-history":[{"count":41,"href":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1651\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":11302,"href":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1651\/revisions\/11302"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1651"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1651"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/csc-mcnair\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1651"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}