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										   <span style='color: #800000'>III. A Deepening (1/4/1980 – 10/6/1980)</span>										</a>
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							                        						                        <figure id="attachment_11436" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-11436" style="width: 207px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/files/2012/01/Hall-McNair-19800122-001-colby.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-11436  " style="border: 1px solid black; margin-left: 3px; margin-right: 3px;" title="Poetry Magazine" alt="Poetry Magazine" src="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/files/2012/01/Hall-McNair-19800122-001-colby.jpg" width="207" height="270" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-11436" class="wp-caption-text"><em>Poetry Magazine acceptance letter.</em></figcaption></figure>
<p>There is good news as this section opens. Joseph Amaryllis sends word that  <em>Poetry</em> magazine has accepted two of my poems. But there is bad news as well. Don becomes so upset about my dual submission of poems to another editor that he decides Joey can no longer represent me.</p>
<p>The other editor is a friend who founded a new Boston magazine about to go to press in its first issue without enough material. My work would help him with his start-up, and me with a Boston audience, I thought to myself, and besides, these were lesser poems that had been going nowhere. But Don (whose initial letter on the subject is missing) thought I had behaved badly, and he was right. The scrape I got myself into passed, but not without its lesson. I learned from it not only about proper submission, but all over again about Don’s value to me as a submitter, advisor and friend.</p>
<figure id="attachment_11460" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-11460" style="width: 300px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/files/2012/02/8a2289b0063e0e990deb116a2287bd87.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-medium wp-image-11460   " style="border: 1px solid black; margin-left: 3px; margin-right: 3px;" title="Colgate Hall, Colby Sawyer College" alt="Colgate Hall, Colby Sawyer College" src="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/files/2012/02/8a2289b0063e0e990deb116a2287bd87-300x197.jpg" width="300" height="197" srcset="https://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/files/2012/02/8a2289b0063e0e990deb116a2287bd87-300x197.jpg 300w, https://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/files/2012/02/8a2289b0063e0e990deb116a2287bd87-1024x675.jpg 1024w, https://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/files/2012/02/8a2289b0063e0e990deb116a2287bd87.jpg 1187w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-11460" class="wp-caption-text"><em>Colgate Hall, Colby-Sawyer College. Image courtesy Cleveland Colby Colgate Archives, Colby-Sawyer College.</em></figcaption></figure>
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<p>That is likely why I begin to sign my letters following this event with love, and to take his criticism more seriously. Asmy relationship with him deepens and I feel the vindication of my NEA fellowship, my correspondence becomes more frequent. During 1980, I write him nearly as many letters as in the four previous years combined, many of them accompanied by drafts of poems, and some others appraising Don’s own poems.</p>
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<figure id="attachment_11437" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-11437" style="width: 300px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/files/2013/12/faces-americans-mss.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-medium wp-image-11437 " style="border: 1px solid black; margin-left: 3px; margin-right: 3px;" title="The Faces of Americans " alt="The Faces of Americans" src="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/files/2013/12/faces-americans-mss-e1387483860136-300x89.jpg" width="300" height="89" srcset="https://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/files/2013/12/faces-americans-mss-e1387483860136-300x89.jpg 300w, https://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/files/2013/12/faces-americans-mss-e1387483860136.jpg 464w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-11437" class="wp-caption-text"><em>The Faces of Americans manuscript, by Wesley McNair</em></figcaption></figure>
<p>Don’s enthusiasm for my new work and Joey’s success in publishing it blunt the pain of not placing my book with any of the presses I send it to, including the house for which Don is poetry consultant, Harper &amp; Row.Yet I still grouse about my situation, and Don steps in to encourage me, most notably in his astonishing letter of July 8, 1980, after which I find myself encouraging him about his own work.</p>
<p><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/files/2013/12/cald1.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-11434 alignleft" style="border: 1px solid black; margin-left: 3px; margin-right: 3px;" title="Caldecott" alt="Caldecott" src="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/files/2013/12/cald1.jpg" width="154" height="154" srcset="https://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/files/2013/12/cald1-150x150.jpg 150w, https://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/files/2013/12/cald1-36x36.jpg 36w, https://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/files/2013/12/cald1-115x115.jpg 115w" sizes="(max-width: 154px) 100vw, 154px" /></a>September arrives with news that Don has won the 1980 Caldecott Medal for his children&#8217;s book <em>The Ox-Cart Man.</em>The September letters also show us in conversation poems I hope to give to Joey for submission to magazines. In this fall, the two of us switch roles. Sponsored by my NEA fellowship, I am home at my farmhouse writing and revising poems; meanwhile Don is at Colby-Sawyer College, teaching a course in composition to spark interest in the second edition of <em>Writing Well</em>, his college textbook.</p>
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										   Hall to McNair: January 4, 1980										</a>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">4 January 1980</p>
<p>Wes McNair<br />
No. Sutton, NH</p>
<p>Dear Wes,</p>
<p>If Howard Dinin writes, I will be<br />
pleased to hear from him – but I won’t be<br />
able to send him anything, not at least<br />
for quite a while. I really believe in<br />
keeping things around two or three<br />
years before you send them out. I don’t<br />
always do it, especially when a book is<br />
due. But I have not sent anything out<br />
since <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Kicking the Leaves</span>, and I probably<br />
won’t for another six months or perhaps<br />
twelve months. I have things that are<br />
probably finished. Well, they’re probably<br />
not, really – but they might as well be.<br />
They haven’t yet gone through the Ordeal<br />
by Friendship, wherein I send them to all<br />
my friends who lacerate them. I’m about to<br />
start doing that, with a few of them.</p>
<p>But I have thought dimly of sending<br />
some things out this spring but I think I<br />
probably won’t until next autumn. And<br />
then I have a list of magazines that I<br />
promised to send things to. Therefore, it<br />
will be a while. But I will probably make<br />
it eventually, if I live long enough, and<br />
I look forward to it. I also look forward<br />
to seeing you guys next week. Terrific.</p>
<p>2/</p>
<p>I think what you’re doing with the book is<br />
sensible. …Though you know what I hope.</p>
<p>Best as ever,</p>
<p>Don</td>
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<p><span style="color: #ff6600;"><em><strong>A note from McNair about this letter:</strong></em></span> Howard Dinin is a friend who wanted me to ask Don for poems to publish in his new magazine, a start-up called <em>The Boston Monthly</em>. Don is responding to my phone call about it.</p>
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										   Hall to McNair: January 21, 1980										</a>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">January 21, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don-</p>
<p>I enclose a mini-poem which I hope you like well<br />
enough to pass on to Joey. Also: there are three<br />
poems which I hope Joey will be willing to remove<br />
from circulation &#8211; namely, &#8220;The Man,&#8221; &#8220;Country People,&#8221;<br />
and &#8220;Memory of North Sutton.&#8221; Howard Dinin would like<br />
to claim them for <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Boston Monthly</span>, would you please<br />
ask Joey about this? It was good to see you both on Wednesday.<br />
Diane will surely never have a better audience for<br />
her slides from Chile. How great it was to share them<br />
with you!</p>
<p>I have now started <span style="text-decoration: underline;">String too Short to be Saved</span>,<br />
a book which I cannot help liking, it reminds me<br />
so much of my own early experiences on farms.<br />
More about <span style="text-decoration: underline;">that</span> later.</p>
<p>Best to you both,</p>
<p>Wes</td>
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<p><strong><span style="color: #ff6600;"><em>Editorial note about this letter:</em></span></strong>  The &#8220;mini-poem&#8221; included in this letter is “The Fat Enter Heaven.&#8221; Here, from McNair&#8217;s writing notebook, is a draft of the poem as sent in this letter.</p>
<p>The Fat Enter Heaven</p>
<p>It is understood, with the clarity that is possible only in heaven,<br />
that none have loved food better than these.<br />
Angels gather to admire their small mouths and their arms, round<br />
as the fenders of Hudson Hornets. In their past<br />
they have been among the world&#8217;s most meek,<br />
the farm boy who lived with his mother, the grade-school teacher<br />
who led the flag salute with expression, day after day.<br />
Now, their commonplace lives, the guilt about their weight,<br />
the ridicule, fade like a dream. They come to the table steaming with food<br />
more appetizing than they have ever seen, shedding their belts and girdles<br />
for the last time. Here, where fat itself is heavenly,<br />
they fill their plates and float upon the sky.</p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/the-man/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">The Man </span></a></strong><span style="color: #800000;">(published version)</span></span></p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/country-people/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">Country People </span></a></strong><span style="color: #800000;">(published version)</span></span></p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/memory-of-north-sutton/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">Memory of North Sutton </span></a></strong><span style="color: #800000;">(published ve</span><span style="color: #800000;">rsion)</span></span></p>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">Jan. 22, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Mr. Amaryllis,</p>
<p>Thanks very much for sending the<br />
poems by Mr. McNair. We do like them, and<br />
are glad to keep</p>
<p>“The Poetic License”<br />
“The Bald Spot”.</p>
<p>I hope Mr. McNair does not have<br />
a book publication deadline coming up<br />
soon? Poems accepted now aren’t likely<br />
to be published until fall—what with our<br />
backlog.</p>
<p>Might be a good idea to put Mr. McNair’s<br />
name on his MSS.? “The art of losing isn’t<br />
hard to master…”, as Eliz. Bishop sings.</p>
<p>With all best wishes,</p>
<p>Sincerely yours,<br />
John Frederick Nims<br />
22 January 1980</p>
<p>Notice of Acceptance</p>
<p>The Editors of Poetry are pleased to accept the<br />
following for publication:</p>
<p>THE POETIC LICENSE<br />
THE BALD SPOT</p>
<p>Wesley McNair<br />
c/o Amaryllis, Incorporated<br />
Box 71<br />
Potter Place, NH 03265</td>
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<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/the-bald-spot/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">The Bald Spot</span></a> </strong>(published version)</span></p>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">28 January 1980</p>
<p>Wes McNair<br />
Dept. of English<br />
Colby-Sawyer College<br />
New London, NH 03257</p>
<p>Dear Wes,</p>
<p>Thanks for the mini-poem. It is an absolutely magnificent<br />
idea, it will be a marvelous poem – and I don’t think it is<br />
quite yet finished. I think that there is a certain awkwardness,<br />
and haste, perhaps, about the end of the poem. I don’t think<br />
we should have a comma after “now.” I think that “<span style="text-decoration: underline;">the</span> guilt<br />
about <span style="text-decoration: underline;">their</span> weight,” seems awkward in its little words. And<br />
I <span style="text-decoration: underline;">know</span> that “fade like a dream,” is the most total of cliches.<br />
And things get a little clichetic further on. “Steaming with<br />
food,” and “appetizing,” and is “seen” the right word? I like<br />
the third line from the end. I like the second line from the<br />
end pretty well – I think the last line is OK but I think it<br />
could be a whole lot better. I wish you would keep it around<br />
a little longer, the way you tend to do anyway, and intensify<br />
or <span style="text-decoration: underline;">freshen</span> the last half or third of the poem. It is a marvelous<br />
notion! Dear to my heart!</p>
<p>Fine for removing those three poems from circulation –<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;">after</span> they come back from the places where they are currently<br />
being read. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Be</span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;">sure</span> that Howard Dinin waits for Joey’s release.<br />
It would be embarrassing – for you, for Amaryllis, Inc. – if<br />
these poems were taken by another magazine, and then Joey had<br />
to say that they were not available. Be certain about this,<br />
please.</p>
<p>I had a good letter from Howard Dinin, and I will be in<br />
touch with him shortly.</p>
<p>We had a lovely time with you, also, and loved the photographs.</p>
<p>I’m glad that you are enjoying <span style="text-decoration: underline;">String.</span> Did you see that<br />
my children’s book took the Caldecott? We will be able to<br />
build the new bathroom!</p>
<p>Love to you both,</td>
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<p><em></em><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><em>Editorial note about this poem:</em> </strong></span>Though McNair does not send Hall a completed version of his &#8220;mini-poem&#8221; until <a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/mcnair-to-hall-march-29-1980/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">3/29/1980</span></a>, his final revisions at that time reflect Hall&#8217;s concerns.</p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/the-fat-enter-heaven/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">The Fat Enter Heaven</span></a> </strong>(published version as sent to Hall on 3/29/1980)</span></p>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">February 2, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>Your letter of January 29 contains the worst<br />
message I have ever received in the mail. I<br />
am upset that you will no longer handle my poems.<br />
But I am immeasurably more upset that I have<br />
managed to hurt you and no doubt Jane<br />
so terribly.</p>
<p>The least I owe you is an account of the<br />
circumstances which led to my January 21st<br />
letter to you. First of all, I sent the three<br />
poems to Howard Dinin as a result of his<br />
rather desperate request that I give him<br />
some work related to the idea of “home” for<br />
his first issue of <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Boston Monthly,</span> which<br />
was short of material. There is no good<br />
excuse for not letting you know about my<br />
decision to send Howard the poems; I can<br />
only tell you that since it was nine months</p>
<p>2/</p>
<p>after I had given the poems to you, I did not take<br />
seriously the possibility that they might be<br />
published by someone else. Needless to say, I<br />
should have taken that possibility seriously. To make<br />
matters worse, I let the whole thing slide until I had<br />
forgotten it. I did not think about the poems again until<br />
the night of our dinner, when it came up that I had<br />
published in <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Boston Monthly.</span> You said you hoped none<br />
of the poems were in the batch Joey had, and I said<br />
“no,” seeing the seriousness of my lapse, and lacking<br />
the courage to be forthright with you and face the<br />
loss of your esteem. Afterward, I sent my letter,<br />
which contained the “duplicity” you have<br />
mentioned, and which took my lack of<br />
courage one step further.</p>
<p>I cannot blame you for responding as you have.<br />
You are wrong to imagine that I might “conceal<br />
and equivocate” as a matter of course in my<br />
dealings with editors, though I can easily<br />
understand why you would so imagine. Ironically,</p>
<p>3/</p>
<p>the equivocation I have been guilty of with you,<br />
a friend and mentor, I have not practiced with<br />
anyone else. The only time I came even close<br />
was when I allowed the woman from <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Concord<br />
Monitor</span> to quote “The Thin Man,” assuming,<br />
naïvely, that quoting a poem within an article<br />
was not tantamount to publication of the poem.<br />
That I have treated you in this careless<br />
and dishonest way, failing to be straight<br />
with you until the moment I was forced to,<br />
is a thing that I will never forgive myself<br />
for. I am entirely unable to square my<br />
behavior with the appreciation and<br />
generous support which you and Jane have<br />
given me – without which I might well<br />
have lost faith in my writing. I can<br />
only determine at this point that I will<br />
use what has happened to instruct me in<br />
how to be more forthright in the future</p>
<p>2/</p>
<p>with others,<br />
especially those I respect and love.</p>
<p>I remain deeply grateful for all that you<br />
have done for me. I am profoundly sorry that I<br />
have handled this thing so poorly.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p><span style="line-height: 19px;">Wes</span></td>
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<p>Wes McNair<br />
Box 43<br />
N. Sutton, NH 03260</p>
<p>Dear Wes,</p>
<p>Thank you for writing as you did. I am sorry to be<br />
the source, or the effective cause, of such unhappiness.<br />
This too will pass, and in the meantime – as you say so<br />
eloquently – something has happened to be learned from.</p>
<p>Although Joey did not do terribly well for you, certain<br />
things may be opening up. No sign of interest from New Yorker,<br />
but I think that things are quite chaotic there right now, and<br />
I would not be too discouraged about it. When you write new<br />
things, I think you ought to try them there. Hayden<br />
Carruth has shown an interest in your work, and I think you<br />
ought to try again. When you write him with new poems, do<br />
remind him that I showed him some earlier – because I did<br />
it in my own person.</p>
<p>However, do be terribly careful, please, not ever to<br />
mention the connection between Joey and me.<br />
[<em>Written in margin</em>: to anyone.] It would be a<br />
matter of great embarrassment to me if any of these poetry<br />
editors, some of whom I know under my own name!, realized<br />
that I was corresponding with them under another.</p>
<p>As I sent out the poems, many magazines took forever<br />
to answer. (One of them was Poetry, by the way, with the<br />
first batch; and then they did take two later. So these long<br />
delays were perhaps not all a waste of time.) But the minute<br />
they came back, I sent them out again the same day. So the<br />
notion that nine months meant that you should not take seriously<br />
the possibility that you might be published…well, obviously<br />
I think that was a very strange thought. Or it was a strange<br />
thought that you would then feel free to publish them elsewhere<br />
without letting me know, while I was still madly sending them<br />
out…</p>
<p>But I need not repeat myself, I realize! Your remorse<br />
is bad enough, and there’s no point in rehearsing things.</p>
<p>I take it that the two poems <del datetime="2012-02-27T17:23:16+00:00">which </del>Poetry ^has taken have not been<br />
published elsewhere. …I <span style="text-decoration: underline;">do</span> know that your publication of<br />
“The Thin Man” in the Concord Monitor was only naïve. …The<br />
thing to remember is that publishing is publishing, period.<br />
That there is nothing which is tantamount to this or tantamount<br />
to that. All they are interested in is whether something has</p>
<p>2/</p>
<p>been published or not.</p>
<p>Now for that matter, I merely generalize. If you<br />
send “The Thin Man” out again, to other magazines, I suggest<br />
that you always tell the editor that it appeared in a news-<br />
paper interview in a newspaper called the Concord Monitor<br />
with a circulation of blah blah blah. Somebody may take it<br />
anyway. Certainly some small magazine, with a small circulation,<br />
would feel free to take it. Or quite possibly the Boston<br />
Monthly might feel free to take it. I merely mean that if<br />
the New Yorker had taken it, where it was sitting while it<br />
appeared in the Concord Monitor, the New Yorker would def-<br />
initely have gone back on its acceptance. And that most of<br />
the self-respecting quarterlies and monthlies – Atlantic,<br />
Poetry, etc. – would not take it after it appeared in the<br />
Concord Monitor, if they knew about it.</p>
<p>For that matter, the Harvard Magazine would take it.<br />
And just to <span style="text-decoration: underline;">prove</span> to you that my regard and high wishes<br />
for your work continues intact, may I please have The Thin Man<br />
for the Harvard Magazine, when it comes back from the Virginia<br />
Quarterly? <span style="text-decoration: underling;">I</span> do not mind reprinting from the Concord Monitor.</p>
<p>May I?</p>
<p>Don</td>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">February 14, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>Thank you for your good and kind letter. Of course<br />
you may have “The Thin Man” for <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Harvard Magazine.</span><br />
That you would request the poem lifts me somewhat<br />
from the gloom of the past days. I feel extraordinarily<br />
blessed to have your faith and good will.</p>
<p>Needless to say, I am grateful for your<br />
continuous mailings and remailings of my poems,<br />
and for your suggestions about my own<br />
future mailings. I thank you especially for placing the<br />
two poems in <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Poetry.</span> Ever since I began writing<br />
poetry ten years ago, I have wanted to appear<br />
in that magazine. Having poems accepted by<br />
John Nims is especially meaningful to me,<br />
since he once encouraged me in my writing<br />
at Bread Loaf. (I took a class called “The<br />
Craft of Poetry” with Nims when I was<br />
getting my M.A.) You may be absolutely sure<br />
that the poems Nims accepted have not been<br />
published in, or sent to, any other magazine<br />
or newspaper whatsoever.</p>
<p>Last week, I sent a note to Nims, thanking<br />
him for taking the poems and reminding him of</p>
<p>2/</p>
<p>our association at Bread Loaf. Even as I wrote,<br />
I was unable to glory much in the acceptance,<br />
it was so intermixed with the awful problems<br />
I had created for us both. After reading your<br />
letter, I am beginning to feel better about it.</p>
<p>Thanks once again for the kindness you<br />
Have shown.</p>
<p>Wes</p>
<p>P.S. I have just read in The <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Argus</span> of<br />
your Caldecott Medal. What a wonderful<br />
children’s book “The Ox-Cart Man” must<br />
have made, especially with “primitive”<br />
illustrations – just the right thing!<br />
Congratulations!</td>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">19 February 1980</p>
<p>Wes McNair<br />
Box 43<br />
N. Sutton, NH 03260</p>
<p>Dear Wes,</p>
<p>Could you send me a copy of “The Thin Man”? It has<br />
not returned, and it is possible that it will not.</p>
<p>And for that matter, why don’t we go back to working<br />
with Joey again. I am over my heat, and it is obvious<br />
that this Bad Accident will never come near either one of<br />
us again. Let us just start in. But when you send me<br />
back the poems – for sending out – would you please tell<br />
me again where they have been? That is, would you repeat<br />
my information to you? I buried all the old records in<br />
my correspondence box, which is now anonymous among rows<br />
of boxes up in the Dark Hole upstairs. So I need to know<br />
where they have been, and I would not necessarily remember.</p>
<p>I hope that by the time the two poems come out in<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Poetry</span> you will really be able to feel good about them.</p>
<p>Yes, the Caldecott was good news. So many great ideas,<br />
when you are free-lance writing, fall apart and bring in no<br />
mortgage-helpers. But then something like this happens, and<br />
it is a little annuity for several years. Believe me, I did<br />
not think of the writing only in terms of money! …but I guess<br />
I think of the Caldecott mostly in terms of money!</p>
<p>Best, as ever,</p>
<p>Don</td>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">[Postmarked 22 February, 1980]<br />
Dear Don –-</p>
<p>A quick answer to your question<br />
about “Old Trees.” It has <span style="text-decoration: underline;">not</span> been<br />
sent or published anywhere.</p>
<p>Thanks for your kind words about it -–</p>
<p>Wes</td>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">February 23, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>Given my tendency toward maudlinity, I do not trust myself to<br />
elaborate on the respect and gratitude I feel upon learning of your<br />
(and Joey’s) offer to send out my poems. So I will limit my response<br />
to a simple thank you, hoping that both you and Joey will know my<br />
thank you is most deeply felt.</p>
<p>You asked me to tell you where the enclosed poems have been sent.<br />
According to your letter, “Holding the Goat” and “When Superman Died”<br />
have been rejected by the New Yorker, Paris Review and Poetry; “Going<br />
Back to Elinore Quelch” has been rejected by the New Yorker, Poetry,<br />
Paris Review, Atlantic, Virginia Quarterly Review, Harper’s and The<br />
Nation; and “The Thin Man” and “Hair on Television” have been rejected<br />
by the New Yorker. One more thing you should know is that last Monday<br />
(having waited three weeks after you wrote to withdraw “Hair on<br />
Television” from editorial consideration) I sent “Hair on Television”<br />
to American Poetry Review. Should “Hair on Television” be returned<br />
unpublished, rest assured that I will send it immediately to Joey.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I wish you would please tell me what percentage<br />
of the pay from Poetry Joey should have when my poems are published there.<br />
I seem to recollect ten percent, but perhaps it was more…</p>
<p>In the enclosed batch is a revision of “Old Trees”, which I do<br />
hope you like. I have changed the length of the poem’s stanzas from<br />
two lines to three, and I’ve changed an image that you once questioned.<br />
The poem feels better to me, but I would very much like to have<br />
your response. Would you write me about it when you have a spare moment?</p>
<p>I still await word from “the contests” – the Walt Whitman Award,<br />
the National Poetry Contest, the Yale Younger Poets – and from the<br />
Pitt Poetry Series. Don’t know if I told you that Wesleyan rejected<br />
the book. I’m preparing myself for the possible depression of spring!</p>
<p>In the meantime, I’ve brought a “five-subject notebook” to<br />
continue with old poems and new^inprogress. Perhaps I will have more<br />
to send soon.</p>
<p>Thank you again,</p>
<p>Wes</td>
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<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/holding-the-goat/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">Holding the Goat</span></a> </strong>(published version)</span></p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/when-superman-died-in-springfield-vermont/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">When Superman Died in Springfield, Vermont</span></a> </strong>(published version)</span></p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/hair-on-television/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">Hair on Television</span></a> </strong>(published version)</span></p>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">February 26, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>I believe I forgot to send in my last letter<br />
the copy of “The Thin Man” you requested.<br />
Here it is!</p>
<p>Saludos,</p>
<p>Wes</td>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">27 February 1980</p>
<p>Wes McNair<br />
Box 43<br />
North Sutton, NH 03260</p>
<p>Dear Wes,</p>
<p>Thanks for the manuscripts, and the letter. I think<br />
that Old Trees is just marvelous. Very very beautiful, and<br />
the rhythm in the new lineation is just wonderful. …And I<br />
believe that this one has been published before, has it not?<br />
I think you would mentioned it [sic], if it had not been. If it has<br />
not been, please let me know right away. (Well, please let<br />
me know anyway, because I think I will hold up on sending out<br />
the three available poems until I heard from you about this<br />
one for sure.)</p>
<p>Delighted to have The Thin Man for Harvard Magazine.<br />
It will take a while before it comes out, I am afraid.</p>
<p>Agents get ten per cent, and Joey is no exception.</p>
<p>Good luck with the contests – and expect nothing! I talked<br />
to Fran yesterday, and she has not yet settled on a new publishing<br />
house, but I expect that she will soon.</p>
<p>Fine about having sent “Hair on Television” to the APR.<br />
Let me know what happens, either way.</p>
<p>Best as ever,</p>
<p>Don</td>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">February 29, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>Just in case I didn’t make this clear<br />
on the hastily written postcard I sent<br />
you today – I would very much like Joey<br />
to have “Old Trees.” And neither of you<br />
need worry about my sending poems to<br />
Danbury that have been sent elsewhere,<br />
since I will not be sending poems elsewhere.</p>
<p>I am just delighted that you like the<br />
poem. I wish I had more to send.<br />
And the fact is, I do have lots of<br />
stuff in the notebooks, but none of it is<br />
ready yet.</p>
<p>Anyway, I keep working and hoping.<br />
In the meantime, thanks for your<br />
comments about “Old Trees,” and for<br />
your interest in suggesting it to Joey.</p>
<p>Wes</td>
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<p>Wes McNair<br />
Box 43<br />
N. Sutton, NH 03260</p>
<p>Dear Wes,</p>
<p>I take it that this is not only not<br />
been printed anywhere, but also not been sent<br />
anywhere, not even to the New Yorker? I do<br />
want to try the New Yorker with it. Two<br />
words on a postcard: “Not sent.” And off it<br />
goes.</p>
<p>Love as ever,</p>
<p><span style="line-height: 19px;">Don</span></td>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">March 25, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>I want you know how much I like your book<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;">String Too Short To Be Saved.</span> I feel close to many<br />
of the book&#8217;s characters because you <span style="text-decoration: underline;">make</span> me feel<br />
close to them, but also because I myself met people<br />
like them in my experiences on farms in the Cornish<br />
and Meridian area during the 1950’s.</p>
<p>I especially like the way the concluding chapter,<br />
“Out of the Garden” manages to recapitulate earlier<br />
themes as it states its own. The last sentence of<br />
“Out of the Garden” is <span style="text-decoration: underline;">breathtaking.</span> Still, my<br />
favorite chapter is “The Blueberry Picking.” I have<br />
read few things in my life so good as that reminiscence<br />
is. It is so deeply metaphoric and yet so natural<br />
and “real” in the experience it relates. And<br />
what feeling one senses in the speaker as he looks<br />
back upon the boy self in his “Thirst,” and upon<br />
the old man who hopes the boy will “remember.”<br />
I am just dazed by that piece.</p>
<p>Reading <span style="text-decoration: underline;">String Too Short</span> (wonderful, wonderful title!)</p>
<p>2/</p>
<p>made me return to <span>Kicking the Leaves</span> to discover<br />
new meanings in the poems of that collection.<br />
All over again I love “Kicking the leaves”, “Flies”,<br />
“The Black Faced Sheep,” “The Ox Cart Man,”<br />
“Names of Horses.” I also went back to <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The<br />
Alligator Bride</span> to reread some of my favorite<br />
poems in that – or any other – collection: “The Days,”<br />
“The Stump,” “The Old Pilot,” “New Hampshire,”<br />
“The Repeated Shapes,” “The Man in the Dead Machine,”<br />
etc. And I saw for the first time how often you<br />
are in poetry what you call yourself in <span style="text-decoration: underline;">String<br />
Too Short</span> – an “elegist.”</p>
<p>How wonderful it has been to read this book<br />
and your other books <span style="text-decoration: underline;">through</span> it! Now Diane<br />
has <span style="text-decoration: underline;">String Too Short</span>, and no one can tear<br />
her away from it. (She, too, visited farmer<br />
relations in New Hampshire when she was a girl.)<br />
She joins me in thanking you for the book. It<br />
is wonderful to know that a person whose work<br />
I like so much likes my work, too!</p>
<p>Love,</p>
<p>Wes</p>
<p>P.S. I include “Hair on Television” for Joey’s collection<br />
of my poems. It was rejected by APR &#8211;</td>
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<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/flies/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">Flies</span></a> </strong>(published version)</span></p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/the-black-faced-sheep/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">The Black-Faced Sheep</span></a> </strong>(published version)</span></p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/names-of-horses/"><span style="color: #800000;">Names of Horses</span></a> </strong>(published version)</span></p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="”http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/the-days/”" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">The Days</span></a> </strong>(published version)</span></p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/the-stump/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">The Stump</span></a> </strong>(published version)</span></p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/the-old-pilot/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">The Old Pilot</span></a> </strong>(published version)</span></p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/new-hampshire/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">New Hampshire</span></a> </strong>(published version)</span></p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/the-repeated-shapes/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">The Repeated Shapes</span></a> </strong>(published version)</span></p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/the-man-in-the-dead-machine/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">The Man in the Dead Machine</span></a> </strong>(published version)</span></p>
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<p>Wes McNair<br />
Box 43<br />
N. Sutton, NH 03260</p>
<p>Dear Wes,</p>
<p>Many thanks for the letter and the poem.</p>
<p>Probably you know that Jim Wright died<br />
yesterday morning. He had cancer, and would<br />
only have suffered terribly for a few months,<br />
if the cancer had taken its predicted course.<br />
Pneumonia cut him off. I was with him last<br />
Saturday, and it was terrible. I was with him<br />
two weeks before also. Jim knew he was going<br />
to die, when I saw him Saturday. Sometime I<br />
will tell you about it. It is difficult to<br />
talk about.</p>
<p>I’m terribly pleased that you like <span style="text-decoration: underline;">String</span><br />
so much, and that it led you back to the poems<br />
and that they held up too. Thank you so much<br />
for telling me! I saw Diane yesterday and she<br />
told me about reading <span style="text-decoration: underline;">String</span>.</p>
<p>I need these things! Don’t we all.</p>
<p>I will be putting “Hair on Television”<br />
to good use, I hope.</p>
<p>Best as ever,</p>
<p>Don</td>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">March 29, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>I was sorry to learn of James Wright’s death. It must have been<br />
a very tough thing for you. Has there been any news of it in the press?<br />
I have not read of it anywhere outside of your letter.</p>
<p>I came to Wright’s poetry late, though I did encounter the<br />
Eisenhower/Franco poem (can’t remember the title exactly, and can’t<br />
find the poem) earlier on, and I still remember the thrill of reading it.<br />
I saw the Wright poems in your <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Contemporary American Poetry</span> early, too,<br />
but it was much later that I got to his books. Needless to say, he has<br />
left many beautiful poems behind.</p>
<p>You are quite welcome to compliments about <span style="text-decoration: underline;">String Too Short To Be<br />
Saved.</span> And about the poems. I realize now that I did not mention<br />
in my letter one of my favorite poems from <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Alligator Bride</span> – I<br />
mean “Mount Kearsage”. Ever since you did your reading at Colby, that<br />
poems has stuck with me. I can still hear the way you said its<br />
wonderful last line, “blue ghost”. I often think of that poem as I<br />
drift downward towards Crockett’s Corners from Colby and that mountain<br />
rises before me.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I heard not long ago from Fran McCullough, who<br />
sent my manuscript back saying she had hoped to publish it with<br />
Harper and Row, but now could not and did not expect to be able to –<br />
since it was a first book – with any of the houses she might join in<br />
the future. I was pleased that she had taken the manuscript seriously<br />
enough to advocate its publication, though, obviously, I was<br />
disappointed to have it returned. I do appreciate all your help in<br />
bringing the book to her attention. Who knows but before too long<br />
your opinion of the book will be vindicated. Though you have warned<br />
me to “expect nothing”, I can’t help hoping.</p>
<p>I am beginning to worry that you did not receive a copy of the<br />
new-improved “Fat Enter Heaven”, since I have not heard from you<br />
about it. I believe you were off somewhere doing a reading when I<br />
sent the copy, so perhaps you never saw it. Anyway, I enclose another<br />
copy for your perusal.</p>
<p>Diane tells me to say she has finished <span style="text-decoration: underline;">String</span> and loved it.</p>
<p>Best from us both,</p>
<p>Wes</td>
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<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/mount-kearsarge/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">Mount Kearsarge </span></a></strong><span style="color: #800000;">(p</span><span style="color: #800000;">ublished version)</span></span></p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/the-fat-enter-heaven/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">The Fat Enter Heaven </span></a></strong><span style="color: #800000;">(</span><span style="color: #800000;">published version)</span></span></p>
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<p>Wes McNair<br />
Box 43<br />
N. Sutton, NH 03260</p>
<p>Dear Wes,</p>
<p>Thanks for the letter. Sorry I had not mentioned<br />
receiving this. I love it, and it is with the New Yorker.<br />
I did not show it to Jane before, so I took the opportunity<br />
to show her this. As I knew she would, she <del datetime="2012-02-29T16:47:00+00:00">enjoys </del>adores it. I<br />
think maybe you get better and better!</p>
<p>Sorry to be the one to have to tell you about Jim Wright’s<br />
death. I guess there had been no news of it in the Globe<br />
or any place. It will hit the poetry press in all the next<br />
issues! There was a long obituary in the New York Times.</p>
<p>I am sorry that Fran is no longer able to consider<br />
the manuscript at Harper &amp; Row! I guess she had to send<br />
it back, because she is going away for two months now, to<br />
Europe and India, and she has not signed on with any new<br />
house. And also, as she says, the scene in New York is absolutely<br />
horrible.</p>
<p>Did you not send a sample into Houghton Mifflin, and<br />
Jon Galassi? You probably told me what happened, but I<br />
cannot remember. Refresh me please. I have a tremendous<br />
habit of forgetting things, which I like to think is somewhat-<br />
deliberate, as a way of dealing with seventy-nine different<br />
items in the course of every day that I live. It is probably<br />
my excuse for incipient senility.</p>
<p>I do have some other notions about the book, but nothing<br />
that I can be concrete about right now, and nothing to be<br />
excited about. But I keep it in mind!</p>
<p>Best to you both as ever,</p>
<p>Don</td>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">April 8, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>You asked in your recent note whether I<br />
had sent poems to Houghton Mifflin. The answer<br />
is <span style="text-decoration: underline;">yes</span>. I mailed five poems to the readers<br />
for the “New Poetry Series,” to no avail.<br />
I did not mention your name (as you earlier<br />
said I might) because that seemed inappropriate<br />
in an open competition: Perhaps I chose the<br />
wrong five poems…I can always<br />
rationalize that way.</p>
<p>More bad news yesterday. I got my rejection<br />
from the National Poetry Series. At the<br />
bottom of their form letter was a note<br />
(unsigned) informing me that I had sent<br />
“good work.” I don’t feel much heartened<br />
by that, but I suppose it’s better than nothing.</p>
<p>I do appreciate your continuing faith<br />
in the publish-ability of the book. You<br />
lift my spirits every time I’m down about</p>
<p>2/</p>
<p>its fate! In spite of your wise<br />
injunction to “expect nothing,” I am now<br />
hoping for a good word from the Pitt Poetry<br />
Series. You will remember that Ed Ochester<br />
asked me to resubmit my manuscript<br />
there this year, having turned it down last<br />
year. I should hear by June.</p>
<p>I am enormously pleased that you like<br />
“The Fat Enter Heaven” and that Jane<br />
likes it. I have been working on a longer<br />
“fat poem” for some time now, and on<br />
other poems, but I am so slow I almost<br />
lose patience with myself.</p>
<p>Next week I go to Detroit to lecture<br />
on Winslow Homer at the joint meeting of the<br />
Popular Culture and American Culture Associations.<br />
That will perhaps provide the brief respite I<br />
need to jar some poems loose!</p>
<p>Love to you and Jane,</p>
<p>Wes</td>
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<p><span style="color: #ff6600;"><em><strong>A note from McNair about this letter:</strong></em></span> The “longer fat poem” I&#8217;m working on when I write this letter is “The Fat People of the Old Days.”</p>
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<p>Wes McNair<br />
Box 43<br />
N. Sutton, NH 03260</p>
<p>Dear Wes,</p>
<p>Thanks for your note, though I’m sorry to hear the dis-<br />
couraging news. It is simply a bad time for publishing a<br />
book. And it may be a bad time forever, with the big publishers<br />
in New York and Boston. I think I told you that my first book<br />
was rejected thirteen times before it was accepted – and that<br />
was a time when publishers were almost looking for new poets,<br />
at least compared to now. Fran’s firing was a real blow to me,<br />
to my optimism about things. I will keep looking and keep<br />
thinking. When I see Jon Galassi – who is the editor at<br />
Houghton Mifflin, but who has an assistant who reads most of<br />
the poems that come in – I will approach him cautiously, and<br />
that might be worth trying again. But any one possibility is<br />
always an improbability. Meanwhile, we will get the poems into<br />
some good magazines, and in the long run I think that will go.</p>
<p>Have a terrific time at Detroit. I spent seventeen years<br />
only forty miles away. And there is a good art museum and a<br />
good ballpark, and otherwise it is a pretty depressing and<br />
depressed place.</p>
<p>Best as ever,</p>
<p>Don</td>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">April 14, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>How lovely to receive your poems in<br />
the mail. How much I am enjoying<br />
them! I have read them already several<br />
times.</p>
<p>I am writing this letter to thank<br />
you for them – and to let you know<br />
that though I will not be sending them<br />
immediately, I will certainly be<br />
“working on them.” I always need time<br />
to let poems settle – my own or<br />
anyone else’s.</p>
<p>I promise a letter about them<br />
soon – am taking them with me<br />
to Detroit and will be back with<br />
a full response. Thank you again<br />
for letting me see them.</p>
<p>Love,</p>
<p>Wes</td>
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<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>Finally I find the time to write you about the poems<br />
you sent!</p>
<p>I do like them &#8212; all of them &#8212; very much. I believe<br />
that “6 October 1980” is one of the most moving poems<br />
you ever wrote, so complicated and profound are the<br />
feelings of sonship which it expresses. It is a<br />
wonderful thing. “Epithalamion” is also a wonderful<br />
poem. The “positioning” of each of your reluctant<br />
characters is perfect &#8212; Emily in the cellar “vanishing<br />
against a pillar” (just the right word, that<br />
“against”!) and Walt in the belltower <span style="text-decoration: underline;">with</span><br />
the muscular young sexton. I love that piece. And<br />
I love “Sonnet.” The last stanza of that poem is<br />
just delicious in its sounds and imagery. I<br />
believe that “Marbles,” “A Novel in Two Volumes,”<br />
and “Scenic View” are also good, strong poems.</p>
<p>I have suggestions about how certain aspects<br />
of the other poems might be revised &#8211; suggestions<br />
which I <span style="text-decoration: underline;">hope</span> will be helpful. One of my favorite<br />
poems in its potential^”Poultry” is still, I think, not<br />
quite finished. I very much like the way seasons<br />
turn throughout the poem, the way the life and death<br />
of poultry suggests to both boy participant and<br />
adult narrator the transcience [sic] of human life. What<br />
I feel the poem needs is a fuller reference to Luther…<br />
or perhaps references to people other than Luther, who</p>
<p>2/</p>
<p>were alive once to eat the meals the poultry made, and who<br />
are now dead. Without more allusions to Luther (at the<br />
table, “leading in the singing of “hymns”, your word noted on<br />
page 4? with others?) the poem’s conclusion seems to me<br />
arbitrary. I do find the descriptions of chicks, chickens<br />
and roosters <span style="text-decoration: underline;">most</span> convincing, however…I love the<br />
rooster section. One other question: In the 4th<br />
stanza, should the phrase “when the egg making frenzy”<br />
be changed to a phrase which more closely approximates<br />
the other indented phrases of the section, which seem to<br />
convey the continuous action of the hens in time<br />
(moving toward “consumed”)?</p>
<p>About “The Glass.” If I have your intentions right:<br />
it seems to me the poem should be presented in 3 stanzas.<br />
I think the first stanza should speak of the world of<br />
“permanence”; the second stanza, about the speaker’s<br />
“heroic” movement through time, which leads to reading<br />
the news about Emily Farr’s death; the third stanza,<br />
about the glass. I <span style="text-decoration: underline;">especially</span> like the image of the “old<br />
man carrying buckets/among pale ferns under<br />
wavering birches,” and I do believe this poem could<br />
be quite wonderful, even though it is not (or so I<br />
think) fully realized at this point.</p>
<p>“Fires for Tending.” I feel the poem should <span style="text-decoration: underline;">begin</span></p>
<p>3/</p>
<p>with the reading of the obituaries. The prologue of the first<br />
three lines gives so strong an emphasis to the comfortable<br />
domestic rituals and environment of the narrator’s<br />
present that the movement into the past does not<br />
achieve the importance that I believe it ought to have<br />
in the poem. I feel that if the first 3 lines were cast<br />
and the ordering were changed slightly, the narrator would<br />
read his news, recollect the experience of the past,<br />
and return to the surroundings of his present life,<br />
feeling his old attachment to them, along with an<br />
unsettling <span style="text-decoration: underline;">de</span>tachment. (This tension between attachment<br />
and detachment comes through wonderfully well, I think,<br />
in the last 2 lines.) Another thing about the conclusion:<br />
I feel that the story should not be characterized as<br />
“ordinary,” since that characterization stills the reverberations<br />
that the memory might have. Incidentally, I wonder if<br />
the full-out <del datetime="2012-03-05T16:29:55+00:00">statement </del>declaration of the last stanza &#8211; the “I<br />
will preserve” should be replaced with a phrasing<br />
which stresses <del datetime="2012-03-05T16:29:55+00:00">the </del>struggle against the fact of<br />
forgetting…or against “the forgetful kingdom of death,”<br />
as J.C. Ransom called it. I don’t mean to suggest<br />
that the “struggle” should be expressed in any dramatic way &#8211;<br />
only that it might be <span style="text-decoration: underline;">hinted</span> at… I do hope I<br />
have not written here about a poem which I might<br />
write, rather than about the poem which this one might<br />
become.</p>
<p>4/</p>
<p>“Whip Poor Will.” I feel that the last line of the poem<br />
should refer somehow to the whip-poor-will’s “voice-lessness”<br />
during the day. Stilling the bird’s song would be a bitter<br />
way, I think, to bring the narrator and reader back to the<br />
“real” world of the last stanza. Also, I like your<br />
penned-in lines “but the real/bird lifts away”<br />
better than the 1st and 2nd lines that appear in<br />
the typed version of the last stanza. I wonder, too,<br />
if the whip-poor-will’s flight into “far dark fields”<br />
in the stanza <span style="text-decoration: underline;">one</span> might be more strongly linked with<br />
the bird’s flight into the narrator’s dream, which is<br />
suggested in stanza two. The possible link between the<br />
two seems to be cut off by the rooster’s crowing and<br />
by the light of the second stanza. I think that the<br />
“cock-crow” should be cut out, and that the darkness<br />
of stanza one should extend into stanza 2, at least<br />
until the reader is able to catch the connection<br />
between the flight into dark fields and the flight<br />
into the mind. The light, then, might foreshadow<br />
the awakening to “reality” which eventually happens &#8211;<br />
even as it (the light) suggests Wesley Wells,<br />
who began his day at dawn.</p>
<p>If I have misread your intentions anywhere<br />
with my <del datetime="2012-03-05T16:29:55+00:00">suggestions </del>recommendations, I am sorry. I certainly want<br />
to be a help to you and not a hindrance. I feel this</p>
<p>5/</p>
<p>is a very strong group of poems, and I thank you<br />
very much for letting me see them.</p>
<p>But no more ado. I must get this into<br />
the mail!</p>
<p>With love,</p>
<p>Wes<br />
[McNair]</td>
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<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/epithalamion/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">Epithalamion</span></a> </strong>(published version)</span></p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/scenic-view/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">Scenic View</span></a> </strong>(published version)</span></p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/whip-poor-will/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">Whip Poor Will</span></a> </strong>(published version)</span></p>
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<p>Wes McNair<br />
N. Sutton, NH 03260</p>
<p>Dear Wes,</p>
<p>Many thanks for your good long letter about the poems.<br />
I’m delighted that you like the “6 October…” I sent these<br />
out to a good number of people, and I guess that most of<br />
the people whose opinion I respect like this one best. It<br />
goes over big at poetry readings! (Believe me, I do say<br />
that with the sense of the ghoulish…) And Robert Bly thinks<br />
it is probably one of the worst ones ever written, etc. I<br />
sort of knew he would. He is crazy about anything connected<br />
with my father… I mean sort of insane. Still, you have to<br />
wonder… I am really glad that you like it.</p>
<p>I take most seriously your suggestions about revision<br />
And will keep them with the poems to keep looking at your<br />
Suggestions. I know that the Chickens poem will change.</p>
<p>I am not quite sure what seems unrealized in “The<br />
Glass” now. You wanted me to break the first stanza into<br />
two parts, but you did not make any other suggestions. Can<br />
you make any further suggestions about this one? I really<br />
think that your suggestions about Tending Fire are going to<br />
save that poem, which I have felt slipping away from me…<br />
That is, a lot of people have felt that the end of it was<br />
too domestic or comfortable – and I couldn’t quite see that –<br />
but now I see why it is, as I believe anyway – because of<br />
the first three lines.</p>
<p>And I think you are really helping with remaking the<br />
Whip-Poor-Will also – which needs it!</p>
<p>I will show you some more in time – and of course I<br />
will show you these again when I straighten them out or<br />
attempt to.</p>
<p>Thank you so much!</p>
<p>As ever,</p>
<p>Don</td>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">July 3, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>Hoping that I might hear something positive from U.<br />
Pittsburg about my book, I have held off writing to you<br />
until now. You will remember that last year Ed Ochester<br />
at Pittsburg asked me to resubmit my manuscript this<br />
year. Well, the thing got rejected again. Ochester<br />
said he liked the “Going Back to 5th Grade” sections<br />
and “Faces of Americans,” and he re-invited me to<br />
resubmit <span style="text-decoration: underline;">next</span> year.</p>
<p>Weary of resubmitting &#8211; also to Yale, where the<br />
book was also rejected &#8211; I am quite down about things<br />
right now. I did not realize, I guess, how difficult<br />
publishing the book was going to be. And yet I should<br />
not be ungrateful, I know. I am very lucky to have<br />
the NEA grant, and besides, others have tried longer<br />
than I have so far to get books published, with no<br />
better results. I will certainly come out of this,<br />
eventually. I have put entirely too much stock in<br />
the Pittsburg possibility &#8211; that is the problem. I am<br />
in the process of resolving really and truly not to<br />
“expect” in the future.</p>
<p>The thing to do now, I guess, is to send the book<br />
to other places. Would it do any good at all to</p>
<p>2/</p>
<p>send it to places like Viking, Doubleday and Knopf?<br />
That is, would these houses be likely to even read an<br />
unsolicited first book of poems? I suppose you will<br />
say “no” to this, and anyway, I am thinking<br />
mainly of university presses for the book &#8211; Illinois,<br />
Princeton and Carnegie-Mellon &#8211; if you think these<br />
are good choices. Should I mail it to U. Georgia,<br />
where Paul Zimmer now is? My main interest at this<br />
point is in being published at a press whose books<br />
are likely to be reviewed widely &#8211; and picked up<br />
later by anthologies.</p>
<p>Earlier, you mentioned the possibility of Houghton<br />
Mifflin. I do intend to send HM poems for<br />
review in the fall, the procedure for those who wish<br />
to qualify for consideration in the “New Poetry”<br />
series. Since I have little confidence in my own<br />
capacity to choose the “review” poems (my choices<br />
last year, you may recall, led to my being<br />
disqualified), I wonder if you would mind suggesting<br />
poems to send when the time comes? I would<br />
appreciate your help here, though of course I realize<br />
that whatever help one gets, (to use your words) “it’s<br />
a lottery.”</p>
<p>3/</p>
<p>I am happy with the writing I am doing now,<br />
in spite of my current depression. (As I write<br />
of “depression,” it comes to me that last night<br />
I dreamed <span style="text-decoration: underline;">all</span> night of falling &#8211; an interesting<br />
new expression of the vertical metaphor which I<br />
seem to write about so much!) I have decided<br />
that I will not trouble you with the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">individual</span><br />
poems I complete, as I have done in the past-<br />
that I will send you small batches of poems instead.<br />
My first batch is not yet ready, but I am writing<br />
daily and steadily, and you shall see results in<br />
due time.</p>
<p>There is, after all, no one whose opinion I value<br />
more &#8211; or half as much &#8211; as yours. It is my<br />
extraordinary luck that you have been there<br />
with concern and encouragement, even in the<br />
most discouraging times. That gives me hope<br />
that the long wait will one day prove worthwhile.<br />
I am everlastingly grateful for your faith<br />
in my poems.</p>
<p>Love,</p>
<p>Wes</td>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">8 July 1980</p>
<p>Wes McNair<br />
Box 43<br />
N. Sutton, NH 03260</p>
<p>Dear Wes,</p>
<p>These feeling [sic] simply do not end! Believe me I am<br />
sympathetic with <span style="text-decoration: underline;">your</span> feelings, but let me tell you that<br />
when you have published a book – which you will – <span style="text-decoration: underline;">nothing<br />
will happen</span>; or at least it will seem that nothing has<br />
happened. And this would be true whether it were published<br />
by New Rivers or Atheneum. Even if something happens, then<br />
you realize that the “something” is truly nothing. And<br />
after you have published eight books of poems, you are still<br />
convinced that no one has read you, and that probably you<br />
are no good anyway. Or at least you are convinced of that<br />
frequently. I have been going through quite a bad patch,<br />
in my feelings about my own ability, my past work, and cer-<br />
tainly my present work.</p>
<p>There is only one place, or one moment, in which one<br />
finds happiness, and it is always momentary – because that<br />
is the moment of actual writing, and of course that is not<br />
always true.</p>
<p>So I do two things: I assure you that you will publish;<br />
and I tell you that it will not make any difference! But I<br />
do have a third thing to say: it makes a difference to me!</p>
<p>In connection with your own book, I am pursing two<br />
distant notions, neither of which is worth talking about<br />
at the moment.</p>
<p>I wish I could tell you the names of people at Viking,<br />
Doubleday, and Knopf to write to. I don’t think it is<br />
useful to send them a manuscript. You might write a letter,<br />
tell them where you have printed, about the NEA – and ask<br />
them if they would care to see a manuscript. Most publishers<br />
do not read manuscripts that come over the transom any more.<br />
Harper &amp; Row used to, when Fran was there – and now it has<br />
stopped.</p>
<p>I think that the University of Georgia with Zimmer is<br />
a good idea, and why not Illinois, Princeton, and Carnegie-<br />
Mellon?</p>
<p>At the University of Illinois Press, please address<br />
the book to Lawrence Lieberman<del datetime="2012-03-05T20:19:14+00:00">n</del>, and tell him that I asked<br />
you to send it to him. [<em>Written in margin</em>: check spelling!]</p>
<p>I’ll be happy to talk with you about which poems to<br />
send Houghton Mifflin, when the time comes.</p>
<p>2/</p>
<p>If you are happy with the writing that you are doing<br />
now – as you mentioned – you are as happy as a poet can<br />
get!</p>
<p>Fine to see small batches of poems. You won’t hear<br />
much from Joey for the nonce, because summer is a bad time<br />
for submitting things, and a slow time for hearing about<br />
things.</p>
<p>Best as ever, and just keep to the bench, as the<br />
scientists say,</p>
<p>Don</td>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">July 14, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>Thank you for your bracing letter. I have mailed the book to<br />
U. Illinois and Carnegie-Mellon&#8211;am <span style="text-decoration: underline;">about</span> to mail it to U. Georgia. I have<br />
also sent several letters about the book to the “big houses”, as you advised.<br />
Needless to say, I am thankful that my publishing the book matters to you,<br />
whatever the consequences might be, and I take hope in your assurance that<br />
I <span style="text-decoration: underline;">will</span> one day publish it. I will try to remember your warning about the<br />
irony underlying all apparent successes for the writer.</p>
<p>You mentioned that you are in a period of uncertainty about your own<br />
work. Perhaps this is a good time to tell you the story of a poem you wrote<br />
not long ago which hit me like the dropped safe of the old cartoon, and<br />
which helped me to write a poem&#8211;and later other poems&#8211;like it, even though<br />
different from it.</p>
<p>I am speaking of your “Waterfowl” poem, which appeared on the back page<br />
of APR 4 or 5 years ago. I believed then, and still believe, that no one<br />
has written a funnier poem than that one. I loved its reliance on sources<br />
in the popular culture. I loved how reckless and how wonderfully controlled<br />
it was in its form and in its humor. And I was struck by its wonderful mixture<br />
of humor and desperate seriousness. I read the poem shortly before I wrote<br />
“The Thugs of Old Comics”. It was your poem and certain poems by Edward<br />
Field that I thought of as I was doing “The Thugs”. Without your poem, I may<br />
never have been able to complete my poem.</p>
<p>I am sure your poem also helped open the way to other humorous “pop-<br />
cultural” pieces which I have worked on since “The Thugs”, and continue to<br />
work on. While it is true that I wrote “The Little Louey Comic” and “The<br />
Characters of Forgotten Dirty Jokes” before writing “The Thugs”, I did not<br />
see the full possibilities of “pop” poems until your poem, Field’s poems<br />
and the writing of “The Thugs”. Do you remember telling me once (and how<br />
thrilled I was!) that “The Thugs” was the “perfect poem”, the poem “The<br />
Little Louey Comic” wanted to become? What you did not know was that your<br />
poem assisted in the completion of “The Thugs”, helping me to go beyond<br />
“Louey”, and later to write poems like “Hair on Television” and one I am<br />
doing now on “before/after” ads.</p>
<p>Of course, your poems about the region of [<em>inserted</em>: northern] New England are also very<br />
important to me as a writer. They show me that solid work can still be done<br />
about the place which inspired the poems of Dickinson, Robinson and Frost,<br />
and they fill me with possibilities for my own regional writing. But I wanted<br />
to write you here about a poem which actually influenced my writing, and<br />
besides, I have written already how much I think of <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Kicking the Leaves</span>,<br />
whatever doubts you may have about your recent writing.</p>
<p>I hope I managed to lift your spirits a bit with this small<br />
testimonial. Even if I haven’t, I thank you very much for that poem and for<br />
writing it at the time I needed it!</p>
<p>Love,</p>
<p>Wes</td>
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<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/to-a-waterfowl/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">To a Waterfowl</span></a> </strong>(published version)</span></p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/thugs-of-old-comics/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">T</span></a></strong></span><span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/thugs-of-old-comics/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">he Thugs of Old Comics</span></a></strong></span><span style="color: #800000;"><strong> </strong>(published version)</span></p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/the-before-people/&quot;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">The Before People</span></a> </strong>(published version)</span></p>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">July 26, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>I’m not sure which “Superman” poem you ask about,<br />
since there are two. One (“The Thugs…”) has been published.<br />
the other (“When Superman Died…”) has not. If you<br />
meant “When Superman Died,” I’ll be glad to send it<br />
right away – just let me know!</p>
<p>You’ve no doubt noticed that I’m including two recent<br />
poems which you haven’t seen. I was planning to send<br />
them later for your “judgement,” [sic] but something’s come up.<br />
I’ve just received a letter from Peter Davison, whom I<br />
wrote to ask about publishing <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Going Back Poems</span> through<br />
Atlantic Monthly Press. He said no to that, but I wants<br />
me [sic] to send him some poems to look at for <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Atlantic<br />
Monthly</span>. I would like to send the enclosed two, if you<br />
think they are reasonably OK, along with two which Joey<br />
currently has – <span style="text-decoration: underline;">ie</span>, “Old Trees” and “The Fat Enter<br />
Heaven.” Oh – maybe also “Hair on Television.”</p>
<p>But I will certainly not give Davison any of<br />
the Joey poems unless he says they are available,<br />
and unless you think it advisable to send these<br />
particular ones. It may well be that Joey has hopes</p>
<p>2/</p>
<p>for them elsewhere – or maybe you feel that they (or<br />
the enclosed 2) are not appropriate for <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Atlantic</span>.<br />
Whatever, I await your view of all this.</p>
<p>Incidentally these 2 are not the only poems I’ve<br />
finished recently. I’ve written two others, but I<br />
am holding onto those because I’ve come to feel that<br />
they might become segments of another poem. I will<br />
certainly be sending these poems and others in some<br />
future batch.</p>
<p>Thanks for your help!</p>
<p>Love,</p>
<p>Wes</td>
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<p><i><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>Editorial note about this letter:</strong></span> Going Back Poems</i> was for a short time an alternative title for McNair&#8217;s book in progress, though he eventually returned to his earlier title, <i>The Faces of Americans in 1853.</i></p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/calling-harold/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Calling Harold</strong></span></a></span><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/calling-harold/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;"><strong> </strong></span></a>(published version)</span></span></p>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">28 July 1980</p>
<p>Wes McNair<br />
Box 43<br />
North Sutton, NH 03260</p>
<p>Dear Wes,</p>
<p>It is when Superman Died that I need. Thank you and<br />
sorry.</p>
<p>Davison saw quite a few poems that Joey sent him,<br />
and he rejected them. As it happens, he did not see the<br />
three that you mentioned: Old Trees, The Fat Enter Heaven,<br />
and Here on Television [sic]. (He would not like the last. But<br />
he might like the first two.)</p>
<p>But they are at the moment out at another magazine.</p>
<p>I will send them to him when they come back, if they<br />
come back. Earlier, although they were addressed to him –<br />
and although Davison has bought poems by other of Joey’s<br />
clients – the poems were rejected by Mary Jo Salter, who<br />
reads for him, and therefore I am not even certain that he<br />
reads them. But he may have done.<br />
[<em>Written in margin</em>: Almost <span style="text-decoration: underline;">certain</span> – or they would have had slips.]</p>
<p>Anyway, I will send those to him when they come back –<br />
but I think it ought to be Joey who does the sending. I think<br />
you ought to be consistent, or we ought to be – I don’t think<br />
that some poems should come directly from you and others from<br />
Joey Amaryllis.</p>
<p>I think that Calling Harold is finished, perfect, and<br />
wonderful!</p>
<p>I think that The Fat People of the Old Days is a wonderful<br />
idea, and ought to be terrific – but I think that it is<br />
awkward and unfinished, and I think it would be a real mistake<br />
to send it out now. That is, I think it will be better a<br />
few months from now.</p>
<p>I don’t really believe in epigraphs very much. This<br />
is a funny saying, but then it appears to be the saying of<br />
the author’s child, and therefore he is saying “Look at what<br />
a cute child I’ve got!” Often they are appeals to authority.<br />
Sometimes they give off an appearance of diffidence. I really<br />
don’t like this one, even though I like the line itself of<br />
course. I don’t think it has much to do with the poem.</p>
<p>Then I think that the language of the poem is slack<br />
here and there, but that the center of it is just pure gold.<br />
I think that “driving some mad.” can be better, because<br />
after all this is a cliche, to be driven mad, and nothing<br />
imaginative about it. I love the notion of knuckles and<br />
elbows sinking into dimples, but then I’m bewildered by the<br />
prepositional clause that follows. It is obvious that it is</p>
<p>2/</p>
<p>dimples of fat. But then you say “of the fat.” And I am<br />
lost. In fact, that generic “<span style="text-decoration: underline;">the</span> fat,” detaching the phenomenon<br />
from people, seems to me probably a mistake. I like the man.<br />
I like the responsibility. I like the fathers folding it<br />
in their pants – but I don’t like “through the cold which/<br />
always was.” The expressions seems to me kind of glib there<br />
and I realize it is a reference to the epigraph. But I don’t<br />
need either. <del datetime="2012-03-09T19:48:03+00:00">But </del>There is nothing wrong with mentioning the<br />
cold: I just think that this way of mentioning it seems<br />
as if it intended to be clever.</p>
<p>I love the wide doors and the passing the potatoes!<br />
But I don’t’ like the “long/vowels of wind…” because there<br />
are no calories in vowels at all – unless you put them there.<br />
I mean, if it were the “buttery/vowels…”…or something.<br />
But “the long/ vowels of wind” just sounds poetical, kind<br />
of a puff of poetical smoke. Then I don’t think it really<br />
ends as well as it might. Partly I think this is the syntax.<br />
The poem ends with two simple declarative sentences, short<br />
lines, brief sentences… It seems kind of staccato or tight-<br />
lipped, here at the end. I think it ought to get better!</p>
<p>And I do, indeed, think it is yet one more marvelous<br />
poem – almost.</p>
<p>Love as ever,</p>
<p>Don</td>
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<p><strong><em>McNair&#8217;s note about this letter:</em></strong> <span><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">The early version my poem “The Fat People of the Old Days,” </span></span><span><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">whose initial draft has been lost,</span></span><span><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"> had an epigraph linking the title to my daughter’s question as a young child: “Were there fat people in the old days?” &#8212; the epigraph Hall refers to in his discussion here. </span></span><span><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">I continued to come back to the poem during the spring and fall of the ensuing year, sending Don another draft, not quite complete, on <span style="color: #800000;"><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/mcnair-to-hall-october-8-1981/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">October 8, 1981</span></a></span>.Yet </span></span><span><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">the poem’s published version, which appears in the footnote of the next letter, shows that I eventually retained the parts he liked and replaced those he questioned, including the epigraph, despite my initial reluctance.</span></span></p>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">July 31, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>Foiled again. I had thought the “Fat” poem was<br />
finished. But you have convinced me that I should wait<br />
and try it again later.</p>
<p>You mentioned that I should probably drop the<br />
epigraph. I am troubled by this because the<br />
epigraph provides background for the stanza</p>
<p>Others saw the fat<br />
Was their responsibility</p>
<p>(remember the fat people “<span style="text-decoration: underline;">had</span> to be fat because it was<br />
cold”). I can perhaps write about “cold”<br />
without the epigraph – or leave cold out entirely –<br />
but I can’t see how to make the above stanza<br />
work without it (the epigraph).</p>
<p>Maybe I could <span style="text-decoration: underline;">kill</span> the above stanza, but I’d<br />
hate to.</p>
<p>Anyway, I am pleased to have your comments<br />
on the poem, and I will be sure to read them<br />
again when the time comes to re-revise. If</p>
<p>2/</p>
<p>anything comes to mind re: the comments I’ve made<br />
here, please let me know.</p>
<p>In the meantime, I am sending you “<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Calling<br />
Harold</span>,” grateful that you liked it and found it<br />
complete, however small the poem may be. I<br />
guess I will just write Peter Davison and tell<br />
him I have passed on his request for poems<br />
to the Amaryllis agency, which handles my<br />
poems. Does this seem right? Then Joey<br />
can do what he wants to do about it.</p>
<p>I am also sending “When Superman Died.”<br />
Thanks for clarifying.</p>
<p>Will you please tell Jane that E.V. Griffith,<br />
Editor of <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Poetry Now</span>, is looking for poems<br />
for an anthology called <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Poets Now</span>, “an<br />
anthology of 80 new poets who seem likely to<br />
win growing recognition in the decade ahead.”<br />
The deadline for submissions is November 30.<br />
Griffith’s address is 3118 K Street, Eureka,<br />
California 95501. He’s asking for 10-15<br />
poems from each submitting poet.</p>
<p>3/</p>
<p>As you may have guessed, I am interested<br />
in submitting poems to Griffith, especially<br />
since he has accepted work of mine in the past,<br />
for both <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Hearse</span> and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Poetry Now</span>. I have not<br />
submitted yet, because I’m not sure whether I<br />
or Joey should do it. I’ve been thinking of<br />
mailing Griffith <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Going Back Poems</span> – the whole<br />
book – so he’ll have plenty to choose from.<br />
If Joey feels the submission should be made<br />
through the agency, I’ll simply send him a copy<br />
of the book, complete with envelope and stamps.</p>
<p>Please ask him about this. Thanks for everything.</p>
<p>Love,</p>
<p>Wes</td>
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<p><strong></strong>Read <a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/the-fat-people-of-the-old-days/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;"><strong><span style="color: #800000;">T</span></strong></span></a><span style="color: #800000;"><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/the-fat-people-of-the-old-days/" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #800000;">he Fat People of the Old Days</span> </strong></a>(published version)</span></p>
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1 August 1980</p>
<p>Wes McNair<br />
North Sutton, NH</p>
<p>Dear Wes,</p>
<p>Well, you could keep the epigraph but drop the<br />
ascription – which would at least stop it from seeming to<br />
be that business of the author quoting his own kid.  Or<br />
you could build the epigraph into a stanza, maybe. Or – I<br />
really think – the poem could hold up without it, including<br />
the parts that you quote.</p>
<p>Do write to Peter Davison to tell him that he will<br />
receive your poems from the folks down at Amaryllis…</p>
<p>It <span style="text-decoration: underline";>does</span> seem typical of Griffith that he would be<br />
able to <span style="text-decoration: underline";>conceive</span> of the notion that <span style="text-decoration: underline";>eighty</span> poets will “win<br />
growing recognition in the decade ahead!”  How absurd.  There<br />
are not eighty poets in American literature!  There were not<br />
eighty poets in the Elizabethan Age! </p>
<p>I don’t think that anybody is going to read the<br />
anthology much… But I don’t<br />
think it will hurt you to be in it.  I would send him <span style="text-decoration: underline";>only</span><br />
poems which have previously been printed.  It would be absolutely<br />
crazy to waste an unprinted poem on him.  Therefore I would<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline";>not</span> send the whole book.  You could just remove the unpublished<br />
poems from it.  If you like, just go ahead and do that.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Don
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">August 8, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>My response to your recent letter has been delayed because I’ve<br />
been away for a couple of days. But it is good to have your advice<br />
about E.V. Griffith and your comments about the fat poem.</p>
<p>I will be careful not to send Griffith anything unpublished,<br />
and I will certainly revise the fat poem, keeping your suggestions<br />
in mind as I do so. I’m still not sure what I will do about the<br />
poem’s epigraph. You are certainly right about the ascription,<br />
I’ve come to feel, and you may well be right about leaving the<br />
whole business out. Later on, I will perhaps be able to see more<br />
clearly what is needed.</p>
<p>In the meantime, the sending-out of the manuscript continues.<br />
Viking and Random House responded positively to my preliminary letter,<br />
the same one I sent Atlantic Monthly Press and others, and so I’ve<br />
just sent copies of the book to them.</p>
<p>As always, I shall keep you informed about whatever may develop.<br />
I hope your writing goes well, and that you are keeping cool in<br />
spite of our heavy humidity which no rain seems to lighten.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Wes</td>
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<p> 10 August</p>
<p>The first day of Autumn!<br />
I’m glad you’re sending<br />
the book around.  Joey<br />
has the poem out of<br />
course &#8211; but August<br />
is pretty dead.  (I<br />
love it.)  I’m moving<br />
6,000-7,000 books,<br />
reorganizing.  Never again!</p>
<p>Love,<br />
Don</p>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">August 30, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>I am worried about the enclosed poem.<br />
Will you please tell me if it is any good?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Wes</p>
<p>THE RETARDED CHILDREN PLAY BASEBALL</p>
<p>The girl with mild eyes stands<br />
with both feet on first base,<br />
and the shortstop smiles at nothing<br />
he can remember exactly.<br />
Now the soft-faced boy on second<br />
raises his hands, making the precise shape<br />
of a ball. The ball<br />
is already over the outfield.<br />
Some are watching it fall,<br />
an outfielder, the astonished batter<br />
beginning to run. Slowly they see<br />
it is time to wave their arms<br />
and let their voices go. Slowly, joyfully,<br />
the fielders are hurling their gloves,<br />
and the batters are jumping<br />
higher and higher in this moment<br />
for which they have come,<br />
this forgetting so complete<br />
they do not know why they are shouting.</td>
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<p><span style="color: #ff6600;"><em><strong>A note from McNair about this letter:</strong> </em></span>In the title of this draft of the baseball poem I return to my original inspiration, which was a caution sign in my neighborhood of North Sutton that said, “SLOW Children Playing,” leading me to imagine the poem&#8217;s scene.</p>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">August 30, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>Yes, a later revision of the poem I just<br />
sent. Nor does this revision rid me of<br />
apprehensions – though I do think the title (my <span style="text-decoration: underline;">original</span> one)<br />
is better, along with the description of the<br />
second baseman, and the fielders with their gloves.</p>
<p>Here it is anyway, with apologies<br />
for the confusion I’m causing.</p>
<p>Love,</p>
<p>Wes</p>
<p>P.S. (August 31) – Diane told me<br />
yesterday of your congratulations and of<br />
the significance of “placement” in<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Poetry</span>. Both things make me very happy.<br />
And they remind me that I owe<br />
Joey $6.00_, which I send with profoundest<br />
gratitude to both of you.</p>
<p>THE SLOW CHILDREN PLAY BASEBALL</p>
<p>The girl with mild eyes stands<br />
with both feet on first base,<br />
and the shortstop smiles at nothing<br />
he can remember exactly.<br />
Now the large-faced boy on second<br />
raises his hands, making the precise shape<br />
of a ball. The ball<br />
is already over the outfield.<br />
Some are watching it fall,<br />
an outfielder, the astonished batter<br />
beginning to run. Slowly they see<br />
it is time to wave their arms<br />
and let their voices go. Slowly, joyfully,<br />
the fielders are throwing their gloves,<br />
and the batters are jumping<br />
higher and higher in this moment<br />
for which they have come,<br />
this forgetting so complete<br />
they do not know why they are shouting.</td>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">Sept 2, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>In my haste to take care of <span style="text-decoration: underline;">my<br />
own</span> business in my last letter, I<br />
neglected to tell you how much<br />
I – we all – enjoyed your book,<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Ox-Cart Man</span>. I expect it<br />
will be in our family for a long<br />
time to come. I can easily see why<br />
kids enjoy it, just as the kid<br />
in me enjoyed the original poem.<br />
Maybe it will even touch some<br />
of them to like poetry!<br />
Anyway, I’m glad I finally<br />
got a chance to see it. It’s<br />
a very nice little book.</p>
<p>Love,</p>
<p>Wes</td>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">3 September 1980</p>
<p>Wes McNair<br />
North Sutton<br />
New Hampshire</p>
<p>Dear Wes,</p>
<p>A week from today I teach my first class. This Friday<br />
I go to a department meeting. I know it is ridiculous, dis-<br />
gusting, and revolting – but I <span style="text-decoration: underline;">practically</span> feel sorry for<br />
myself, and here I am teaching only one course in three years!<br />
Do not tell anybody my disgusting secret.</p>
<p>I don’t know why this poem doesn’t work but you are<br />
perfectly right to be worried about it. It does not work.<br />
It makes me nervous all the way through, and not nervous in<br />
a good way. It trembles on at the side of making fun of them,<br />
and somehow or other that is too dreadful. Yet it is a wonderful<br />
idea, and I would think that there <span style="text-decoration: underline;">is</span> a wonderful poem <span style="text-decoration: underline;">here</span> –<br />
but not yet, and not in these words. I would put it deep in a<br />
far drawer, “forget about it,” so far as you can, and discover<br />
it by accident three years from now, sit down and write it out<br />
perfectly. Well, that is what I would <span style="text-decoration: underline;">like</span> to do, if I were<br />
you. I would not struggle with it now. It is not a matter of<br />
just changing a word here or there. It is something profounder<br />
going on here.</p>
<p>I was delighted to see the poems in <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Poetry!</span> They really<br />
look good. And as I told Diane, old Nims puts them in a place<br />
of honor. One is honored to be either first or last of the<br />
group of poets there. This has been true forever and ever.<br />
It means he thinks well of you. After we hear from the Atlantic,<br />
unless the Atlantic buys everything we send them, we will go<br />
back to see if we can sell some more to Nims. That’s a good<br />
place to publish.</p>
<p>Best as ever,</p>
<p>Don</p>
<p>Will write on the new version<br />
tomorrow.</td>
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<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #ff6600;"><em><strong>A note from McNair about this letter:</strong></em> </span><span style="color: #000000;">The class Don refers to at the outset of this letter is the one he is teaching at Colby-Sawyer College to prepare notes for a new edition of his college textbook on composition, <em>Writing Well. </em></span></span></p>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">September 5, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>As always, you are right about my poem, and right<br />
that it should be left for awhile. After my frenzied<br />
correspondence about it, I sat down and read it, I mean<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;">really</span> read it, and I saw that I must try to reveal<br />
more of the innocence of the “slow children,” so that the last<br />
line suggests their ability to break free even of the<br />
circumstances which led to their joy, into “pure joy.”</p>
<p>What made me nervous, too, was that the poem was<br />
too close to making fun of the children. I went too<br />
far, I think, towards trying to be “objective” in<br />
my presentation of them, fearing that I might become<br />
sentimental if I allowed myself too much sympathy.<br />
It may well turn out that the hard part is done –<br />
ie, I already have the situation I need for the poem,<br />
some of its images and the kind of pacing I need.<br />
The movement of the poem towards the “innerness” of<br />
the slow children – that pacing – took a long time<br />
to get, and I don’t expect <span style="text-decoration: underline;">that</span> part to change much. Also,<br />
I still like the way they transform the game and<br />
its meaning.</p>
<p>But this <span style="text-decoration: underline;">is</span> a hard thing to write about, especially<br />
given the situation of the retarded on a baseball field.</p>
<p>2</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">If</span> I can deal with such a risky situation, I<br />
may have a better poem for it.</p>
<p>But I do go on. Thanks for writing about the<br />
poem and for being your usual shrewd self.</p>
<p>Thanks too for repeating what you told Diane<br />
about the “placement” of my poems in <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Poetry</span>.<br />
You make me feel good all over again. It <span style="text-decoration: underline;">would</span><br />
be nice if Nims took other stuff.</p>
<p>Oh – and my lips are sealed about your secret.<br />
My own secret is that I do not have to feel sorry<br />
for <span style="text-decoration: underline;">myself</span> this term. One good thing about being<br />
there instead of <span style="text-decoration: underline;">here</span> would be the chance to see<br />
you to talk every now and then. But maybe<br />
we can manage that <span style="text-decoration: underline;">here</span>, with a get-together soon.</p>
<p>It’s better with bourbon, anyway.</p>
<p>I am going to <span style="text-decoration: underline;">try</span> not to send you anything<br />
for awhile now. I do have poems,<br />
and many things underway, too – perhaps <span style="text-decoration: underline;">too</span><br />
many. But I feel I should keep them in my own<br />
head for awhile.</p>
<p>So – until then –</p>
<p>Love,</p>
<p>Wes</p>
<p>P.S. Did you see the poem “Venice” by James Wright<br />
in the June <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Poetry</span>? Wasn’t that <span style="text-decoration: underline;">fine</span>?</td>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">8 September 1980</p>
<p>Wes McNair<br />
Box 43<br />
North Sutton, NH 03260</p>
<p>Dear Wes,</p>
<p>Thanks for your letters. I’m really pleased that<br />
you liked Ox Cart Man. I do not think of it as a poem, though<br />
it is set in irregular lines… Just a way of phrase-grouping,<br />
and slowing down… They wanted to call it a poem on the jacket,<br />
but I wouldn’t let them. Actually, I imagine it is a good<br />
selling point <span style="text-decoration: underline;">not</span> to call it a poem! … though that was not<br />
my reason.</p>
<p>I am thinking some more about the Slow Children –<br />
though I know from your last letter that you have put it<br />
aside anyway. You know, you are presuming to go inside<br />
their minds, therefore not being “objective”… “Smiles at<br />
nothing/ he can remember exactly.” “…the astonished…”<br />
I wonder if it is possible – it will be a completely different<br />
poem – to make it actually objective?</p>
<p>Probably it is best to hold poems back for a long time<br />
before sending them to a friend. I think you do that<br />
already. Jane and I have learned to do that even from each<br />
other. More or less to keep something around, looking at it<br />
daily for two months or so, before we will even show it to<br />
each other. Because it has a way of changing <span style="text-decoration: underline;">on its own</span>, before<br />
anybody else’s words get into it.</p>
<p>It was really such a pleasure to see those good poems<br />
in <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Poetry</span>! … Oh, one more bit of sage, elderly, Polonius-like<br />
advice. For a biographical note, I think it is wise <span style="text-decoration: underline;">not</span> to<br />
emphasize fellowships or academic appointments. I do not mean<br />
that the note in <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Poetry</span> is any serious gaffe or anything, honest<br />
to goodness! But I think that in general, people just get mad<br />
at you if they think you have had four thousand grants, which<br />
would be my general impression if I just scanned your note<br />
briefly, and they tend not to like poets who are Deans and<br />
Vice-Presidents – which is what being director of the American<br />
Studies Program sounds a little bit like. I think that the<br />
most effective kind of biographical note is something that is<br />
quite reticent, non-academic, and non-“successful.” “Wesley<br />
McNair lives in New Hampshire where he raises goats with eyes<br />
in the middle of their foreheads.”</p>
<p>I went to the faculty meeting on Friday, not the faculty<br />
meeting – the English Department meeting. You will probably get<br />
this on Wednesday, my first day of teaching. Pray for me. Pray<br />
for my girls.</p>
<p>Yes, Jim Wright’s “Venice” is wonderful, and there are<br />
many terrific things in this posthumous book of his.</p>
<p>Love to you all, as ever,</p>
<p>Don</td>
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<p><em><strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">A note from McNair about this letter:</span></strong></em> Though Don&#8217;s and my conversation about &#8220;The Retarded Children Play Baseball&#8221; is almost over with this letter, off-and-on work with the poem was just beginning. In fact, I puzzled over how to write the poem off and on for nearly fifteen years, finally publishing the version below in my collection, <em>Talking in the Dark</em>. I actually completed the poem two or three years earlier, but magazine editors would not publish it, perhaps in part because they found its term &#8220;retarded&#8221; pejorative. Even sensing this, I decided to risk my title, since it reflected in its way the condescending attitude of the children&#8217;s teachers, and besides, my poem balked at substituting politically correct terms for the title such as &#8220;mentally handicapped&#8221; or &#8220;mentally challenged.&#8221;</p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/the-retarded-children-play-baseball/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>The Retarded Children Play Baseball</strong></span></a></span><span style="color: #800000;"> (published version)</span></p>
<p>See also a selection of McNair&#8217;s <a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/retbaseball-tcluster/" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #800000;">manuscript notes and drafts</span> </strong></a>of this poem.</p>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">September 9, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>Your recent letter about submissions of my poems reminds me<br />
that the cycle of submission starts in the fall – and that Joey<br />
has only a few things of mine to send. Therefore, in spite<br />
of my earlier thought about <span style="text-decoration: underline;">holding onto</span> poems, I have decided<br />
to send you the enclosed. If you think it is ready, please<br />
give it to Joey. It is not a “biggie,” but it may be<br />
worth <span style="text-decoration: underline;">something</span> to him.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I just saw an ad for the Dorrance<br />
publishing company. Is this a legitimate house, or<br />
is it, as I suspect, a vanity press?</p>
<p>Found the “one question” you got from Cowley’s book<br />
most instructive – and enjoyed the rest of your review<br />
in the Times.</p>
<p>Love,</p>
<p>Wes</td>
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<p><span style="color: #ff6600;"><em><strong>Editorial note about this letter:</strong></em></span> The poem enclosed is “The People Upstairs,” the text of which appears in the next letter.</p>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">Sept 9, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>I seem never to run out of<br />
afterthoughts. This time, I <span style="text-decoration: underline;">only</span><br />
want to change an article<br />
(“the” to “a”) in poem 3<br />
of “The People Upstairs.” Oh, well-<br />
at least this will arrive <span style="text-decoration: underline;">with</span><br />
the other stuff. The enclosed becomes<br />
the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">final</span> version of 3.</p>
<p>Wes</td>
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<p><span style="color: #ff6600;"><em><strong>A note from McNair about this letter:</strong></em></span> Below is the text of the poem &#8220;The People Upstairs&#8221; as I sent it in this letter. The poem is a response to the footfall of tenants in our North Sutton farmhouse as they ascended the stairway to their upstairs apartment, and lived their lives above our heads.</p>
<p>The People Upstairs</p>
<p>1<br />
each night<br />
we hear them</p>
<p>ascending the stairs<br />
descending</p>
<p>deeper and deeper<br />
into the floor</p>
<p>falling while rising<br />
away from themselves</p>
<p>their weightless voices<br />
drifting out</p>
<p>of earshot far<br />
into the next world</p>
<p>2<br />
o feet<br />
forgotten servants</p>
<p>left out<br />
of the conversation<br />
of mind and hands<br />
we hear you</p>
<p>waiting<br />
under the desk<br />
we understand</p>
<p>your great patience<br />
and your</p>
<p>mystery moving<br />
beyond the cloud<br />
of ceiling carrying</p>
<p>the body dream</p>
<p>3</p>
<p>above our heads<br />
the faint scream</p>
<p>of pipes dissolves<br />
the corners of rooms</p>
<p>and feet walk past us<br />
in space</p>
<p>free of the tables<br />
lamps and chairs</p>
<p>which hold us here<br />
dying of definition</p>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">September 10, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>Thanks for your letter, with its variety of responses to my<br />
questions and comments.</p>
<p>Thanks, too, for your advice about bio notes. Actually, I was<br />
surprised at what was written about me in <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Poetry</span>. The write-up<br />
was not derived from any statement I sent, but from a rather<br />
extensive questionnaire which I filled out about jobs, publications,<br />
grants and even “plans.”</p>
<p>The fact is, though, that I never even considered the dangers of<br />
sounding “successful” when I filled out the form – nor did I<br />
think much about sounding “academic.” You are right that I<br />
should think about these things. What matters, anyway, is not<br />
that stuff but the poems themselves; which is part of your<br />
point.</p>
<p>Yes, “objectivity” is clearly beside the point in “The<br />
Slow Children,” as your quotations make plain. You help<br />
to clear my head for the later revision. No, I do not<br />
hold onto poems when I first think they are finished,<br />
which perhaps explains why I send you revisions after<br />
I have sent you what <span style="text-decoration: underline;">seemed</span> to be the final version. It<br />
takes me so long to <span style="text-decoration: underline;">finish</span> a poem, I guess, I am<br />
overly anxious to have someone else read it, like it<br />
and confirm that I really can go on to other work.<br />
I will have to work on this impulse….</p>
<p>You <span style="text-decoration: underline;">have</span> my prayers as you start at Colby – and<br />
a question. Since (as I have been told) you are using<br />
my office at Colby, maybe you would like me to clean<br />
out my desk and cabinets? I had no idea you would<br />
be there, though I probably could have figured it out.<br />
Let me do this: I will clean out the desk and the<br />
small cabinet to the right of the desk. Then you will<br />
have room for whatever you may need to store. Is<br />
that suitable? While you wait for whatever the prayers<br />
may bring, I can at least deliver you from storage problems!<br />
I will try to take care of this by the end of the<br />
weekend.</p>
<p>Until then, may God be with you.</p>
<p>Love,</p>
<p>Wes</td>
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<p><span style="color: #ff6600;"><em><strong>A note from McNair about this letter:</strong></em> </span>The issue Don has raised about the need to hold onto poems before showing them begins to take effect here and returns in my correspondence later on (for instance, in the letter of Section IV dated <span style="color: #800000;"><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/mcnair-to-hall-october-22-1980/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">October 22, 1980</span></a></span>), becoming one of Don&#8217;s most influential notions about revision, second only to his injunction about the possibility of publishing a book or getting a grant: “Expect nothing.”</p>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">11 September 1980</p>
<p>Wes McNair<br />
Box 43<br />
North Sutton, NH 03260</p>
<p>Dear Wes,</p>
<p>Joey thinks “The People Upstairs” is absolutely perfect,<br />
and will be delighted to send it out, but I see a couple of<br />
things I am not so sure of, so I persuaded him to let me<br />
write you about the poem before he sends it out.</p>
<p>In the first one, I think that “drifting” is a classic<br />
dead metaphor. I’m not crazy about “weightless” either, but<br />
I really dislike “drifting,” which is a distinctly unanchored<br />
unrowboat. I’m not so positive about “ ,” when you<br />
come to that…</p>
<p>In the third part, it is “faint scream” that bothers me,<br />
not the article. It is because screams have been faint since<br />
the beginning of creation. I think everything else is just<br />
fine here. I’m not absolutely positive about the end of the<br />
second part, which is the difficult part. But there’s nothing<br />
wrong with the diction! (I am just not positive that it is<br />
all there or that it is said with as much clarity and force<br />
as need be.) But I feel fairly sure about drifted and faint.</p>
<p>If you feel equally sure, in the other direction, I<br />
will pass the word to Joey.</p>
<p>Love as ever,</p>
<p>Don</td>
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<p><strong><span style="color: #ff6600;"><em>Editorial note about this letter</em><em>:</em></span></strong> After Don&#8217;s small complaints about &#8220;The People Upstairs,&#8221; McNair sent him this revised draft in his ensuing letter.</p>
<p>The People Upstairs</p>
<p>1<br />
each night<br />
we hear them</p>
<p>ascending the stairs<br />
descending</p>
<p>deeper and deeper<br />
into the floor</p>
<p>falling while rising<br />
away from themselves</p>
<p>their weightless voices<br />
moving out</p>
<p>of earshot far<br />
into the next world</p>
<p>2<br />
o feet<br />
forgotten servants</p>
<p>left out<br />
of the conversation<br />
of mind and hands<br />
we hear you</p>
<p>waiting<br />
under the desk<br />
we understand</p>
<p>your great patience<br />
and your</p>
<p>mystery moving<br />
beyond the cloud<br />
of ceiling carrying</p>
<p>the body dream</p>
<p>3<br />
above our heads<br />
the thin scream</p>
<p>of pipes dissolves<br />
the corners of rooms</p>
<p>and feet walk past us<br />
in space</p>
<p>free of the tables<br />
lamps and chairs</p>
<p>which hold us here<br />
dying of definition</p>
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<p> 12 Sept. 1980</p>
<p>Dear Wes,</p>
<p><span style= "text-decoration: underline";>Do not</span> touch your office.  I have plenty of room<br />
there.  After all, I am teaching only one class, only<br />
ten students so far – though I’m supposed to have<br />
thirteen – and I’m only there a couple of hours a<br />
week.  I take the girls files home with me, because I<br />
do my preparation at home… Therefore, I have plenty<br />
of room, as it is, and don’t want you to disturb your-<br />
self at all.</p>
<p>Sometimes when you fill out forms, you have to<br />
suppress things!  Not really I guess.  You can’t help<br />
what John Nims is going to do.  Mostly, magazines ask<br />
you to tell them what you want to be mentioned in the<br />
bio-note.  Love as ever,</p>
<p>Don</p>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">September 13, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>While I am delighted that Joey finds “The People Upstairs”<br />
“absolutely perfect” (his enthusiasm for my poetry is, after<br />
all, one of the main things that keeps me going), I am also glad<br />
to have your more reflective judgement [sic] of the poem.</p>
<p>I did worry about “faint scream” as a cliché, and I am<br />
sure you are right that the phrase should be changed. I hope you<br />
feel as I do that the new word of 3 is more resonant (in all<br />
senses) than “faint”. I also hope you like the change in 1.<br />
Please feel free to let me know if otherwise.</p>
<p>I have decided to go with the rest of it. “Weightless”<br />
[<em>Written in margin</em>: It&#8217;s also the enjambment<br />
which the word makes possible, in the preceding line that<br />
I&#8217;d have trouble replacing -]<br />
and “earshot” <span style="text-decoration: underline;">seem</span> to me irreplaceable, and if 2 doesn’t say<br />
enough, I can’t see how to fix it. At this point, it does feel<br />
right to me. Or right enough that I am ready, with Valery, to<br />
abandon it.</p>
<p>I always worry about these poems which depend so much on<br />
the space around themselves to complete their utterance…That is,<br />
I worry that the space does more for me than it might for the<br />
reader. In this poem, visual space should become aural, and<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;">both</span> kinds of space should contribute to the “distance” between<br />
upstairs and downstairs. I have tried for similar effects with<br />
the page around the poem in “Memory of Kuhre” and “Elinore Quelch”,<br />
and while I am reasonably sure the first of the two works, I<br />
do not know about the Quelch poem. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Nobody</span> seems to like that one.</p>
<p>I hope you like this piece, in any event. If you do, please<br />
give it to Joey.</p>
<p>One more thing: Would you please let me know which five<br />
poems you think I should send to Houghton Mifflin? I should be<br />
writing them soon.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Love,</p>
<p>Wes</td>
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<p><span style="color: #ff6600;"><em><strong>A note from McNair about this poem:</strong></em></span> Eventually, Don&#8217;s &#8220;reflective judgment&#8221; about &#8220;The People Upstairs&#8221; as well as my own led to pulling the piece from my book-length manuscript of poems; I also dropped the verse about Elinore Quelch (See<a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/going-back-to-elinore-quelch/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;"> Elinore Quelch</span></a>). However, I &#8220;raided&#8221; parts of &#8220;The People Upstairs&#8221; for my later poem &#8220;The Longing of the Feet,&#8221; whose published version is available in the footnote of the letter from <a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/mcnair-to-hall-june-3-1982/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">June 3, 1982</span></a>.</p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/memory-of-kuhre-2/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">Memory of Kuhre</span></a> </strong>(published version)</span></p>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">17 September 1980</p>
<p>Wes McNair<br />
Box 43<br />
North Sutton, NH 03260</p>
<p>Dear Wes,</p>
<p>Joey will be sending it out, and asked me to remind you<br />
to put your name on the poems, upper righthand corner, or<br />
a few spaces after the end of them – in typing, when you<br />
type them up in the future.</p>
<p>I do think that “thin” is better than “faint,” though<br />
also rather familiar, in the context.</p>
<p>I’m not sure which five poems! I do like a great great<br />
many of them, and I like a great great many of them a great<br />
great deal! Why don’t you see if you have a sense which five<br />
are the most popular with most of the people whom you know…<br />
which would be more reliable than just one person’s opinion.<br />
I would surely include the Peaceable Kingdom, always, in<br />
everything… The <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Poetry</span> two are wonderful… And I think<br />
that… well, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">don’t</span> include Elinor, simply because too many<br />
people do not seem to respond to it. (It spends its life<br />
in the U.S. mails, still.)</p>
<p>As a matter of fact, I think you are quite consistent.<br />
That is, I don’t think five stick out. I guess it would be<br />
obvious that the adolescent dream poems would not be among<br />
the five. Maybe I would take negative votes – your own,<br />
based upon what you have heard from others – more seriously<br />
even than the positive ones.</p>
<p>Best as ever,</p>
<p>Don</td>
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<p><span style="color: #ff6600;"><em><strong>A note from McNair about this letter</strong></em></span>:  To view the ill-fated Elinore Quelch poem in manuscript, which I agreed was not up to grade, <a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/going-back-to-elinore-quelch/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">click here</span></a>.</p>
<p>Read <span style="color: #800000;"><strong><a href="http://web.colby.edu/copycscmcnair/the-last-peaceable-kingdom/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;">The Last Peaceable Kingdom</span></a> </strong> (published version)</span></p>
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<td style="background: white; padding-left: 30px;">September 28, 1980</p>
<p>Dear Don,</p>
<p>Will you let me know sometime what you think<br />
of the enclosed?</p>
<p>Thanks –</p>
<p>Love,<br />
Wes</p>
<p>WAVING GOODBYE</p>
<p>Waving goodbye is the name<br />
given to air<br />
we shape with others,</p>
<p>husband and wife<br />
gently touching<br />
the distance</p>
<p>growing between them,<br />
which is not air<br />
exactly, not emptiness,</p>
<p>but what together<br />
they are making, the almost<br />
invisible thing</p>
<p>the father makes<br />
with his son, stroking the air<br />
as if it might break,</p>
<p>what all the sisters<br />
and brothers, waving together,<br />
letting go,</p>
<p>are bringing to life,<br />
not emptiness, not the shape<br />
of our sadness,</p>
<p>but rounder, and light<br />
enough to lift up<br />
as we turn,</p>
<p>rising above<br />
the terminal, above<br />
the heavy streets,</p>
<p>invisible<br />
but for the loving<br />
trace of hands.</td>
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							                        						                        {"id":12638,"date":"2017-07-05T12:57:23","date_gmt":"2017-07-05T16:57:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/copycscmcnair\/?page_id=12638"},"modified":"2017-10-18T09:48:34","modified_gmt":"2017-10-18T13:48:34","slug":"a-deepening-slider","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/web.colby.edu\/copycscmcnair\/a-deepening-slider\/","title":{"rendered":"A Deepening"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"vertical-align: top; background: white; float: left;\"><a class=\"shutterset\" title=\"Letter from Hall to McNair, October 6, 1980. Colby College Special Collections.\" href=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/copycscmcnair\/files\/2012\/01\/Hall-McNair-19801006-001-colby.jpg\"><img src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;charset=UTF-8,%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D%27http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%27%20width%3D%27900%27%20height%3D%271145%27%20fill%3D%27rgba%28255%2C255%2C255%2C.2%29%27%3E%3Crect%20width%3D%27100%25%27%20height%3D%27100%25%27%2F%3E%3C%2Fsvg%3E\" data-lazy=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"tf_svg_lazy size-thumbnail wp-image-2078 alignleft\" style=\"border: 1px solid gray; background: white;\" alt=\"Hall-to-McNair-10-6-1980\" data-tf-src=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/copycscmcnair\/files\/2012\/01\/Hall-McNair-19801006-001-colby.jpg\" width=\"250\" height=\"250\" \/><noscript><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-2078 alignleft\" style=\"border: 1px solid gray; background: white;\" alt=\"Hall-to-McNair-10-6-1980\" data-tf-not-load src=\"http:\/\/web.colby.edu\/copycscmcnair\/files\/2012\/01\/Hall-McNair-19801006-001-colby.jpg\" width=\"250\" height=\"250\" \/><\/noscript><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #808080;\">[Click image to view]<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<td style=\"background: white; padding-left: 30px;\">6 October 1980<\/p>\n<p>Wes McNair<br \/>\nBox 43<br \/>\nN. Sutton, NH 03260<\/p>\n<p>Dear Wes,<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t think I like it quite so much. Something willful<br \/>\nabout it, I think, maybe in the abstraction. Yet I like the<br \/>\nmiddle of it a lot. I don\u2019t really believe the metaphor of<br \/>\n\u201cthe name\/ given to air\/ we shape\u2026\u201d I like the father with<br \/>\nson, with sisters and brothers\u2026 the middle part there. Then<br \/>\non the second page I don\u2019t really follow it when it gets to be<br \/>\n\u201crounder\u2026\u201d Then I think that the ending is pretty <del datetime=\"2012-04-13T17:22:29+00:00\">and <\/del>invisible,<br \/>\nwith the metaphor of \u201ctrace.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So I am fairly negative, I suppose \u2013 yet I should say:<br \/>\nwithout perfect confidence in my negativity, the way I usually<br \/>\nhave!<\/p>\n<p>Joey keeps busy, but editors are slow as molasses.<\/p>\n<p>Love as ever,<\/p>\n<p>Don<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\"><strong><em>A note from McNair about this letter:<\/em><\/strong><\/span> I\u00a0quickly abandoned \u201cWaving Goodbye,\u201d the poem in question here, but it returned many years later, less abstract in its conception, fastened down by human experience. The final version of &#8220;Waving Goodbye, published in my 1998 collection<em> Talking in the Dark<\/em>, appears below. Sometimes the creative cycle a poem requires is long, and &#8220;Waving Goodbye&#8221; took nearly as long as &#8220;The Retarded Children Play Baseball&#8221; to think through. 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